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	<title>Comments on: Does MV RECALL candidate Dave Leckness employ an undocumented worker?</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/12/does-mv-recall-candidate-dave-leckness-employ-an-undocumented-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-115036</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin.
Why get  a job when I can collect Social Security checks every month</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin.<br />
Why get  a job when I can collect Social Security checks every month</p>
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		<title>By: colin brake</title>
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		<dc:creator>colin brake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry , you need to get another job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry , you need to get another job!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/12/does-mv-recall-candidate-dave-leckness-employ-an-undocumented-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-113692</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Vern. I got it and did get it.
At this time I am working with our chief of police services and can say no more.
PS: You  need to let us know what gig&#039;s you have lined up for the Holidays!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother Vern. I got it and did get it.<br />
At this time I am working with our chief of police services and can say no more.<br />
PS: You  need to let us know what gig&#8217;s you have lined up for the Holidays!</p>
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		<title>By: Vern Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin, let me help.  You are dealing with Brother Larry here.

Brother Larry, I don&#039;t think Erin is saying she doesn&#039;t believe you, but that she finds it shocking that Leckness responded that way.  Right, Erin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, let me help.  You are dealing with Brother Larry here.</p>
<p>Brother Larry, I don&#8217;t think Erin is saying she doesn&#8217;t believe you, but that she finds it shocking that Leckness responded that way.  Right, Erin?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/12/does-mv-recall-candidate-dave-leckness-employ-an-undocumented-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-113679</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin. I wish you or another person had witnessed our exchange last Thursday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin. I wish you or another person had witnessed our exchange last Thursday</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/12/does-mv-recall-candidate-dave-leckness-employ-an-undocumented-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-113677</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a Break.
Let&#039;s begin with a few facts.
First. This is a blog. As such we post news &quot;and opinion&quot; which is what opens the door for readers to join in.
Second. This story is about an allegation from another Juice reader, whom I do not know, on Mr. Leckness&#039;s failure to verify the legality of one of his employees who Dave admits still works for Kwik Kopy. 

Unless you have something to add or detract from this post I will not entertain your efforts to pull this story off the thread.

This is my final warning.

While other Juice bloggers may have a different position on this point I will enforce it on my personal writings. If you continue trying to divert attention from my stories I will delete your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a Break.<br />
Let&#8217;s begin with a few facts.<br />
First. This is a blog. As such we post news &#8220;and opinion&#8221; which is what opens the door for readers to join in.<br />
Second. This story is about an allegation from another Juice reader, whom I do not know, on Mr. Leckness&#8217;s failure to verify the legality of one of his employees who Dave admits still works for Kwik Kopy. </p>
<p>Unless you have something to add or detract from this post I will not entertain your efforts to pull this story off the thread.</p>
<p>This is my final warning.</p>
<p>While other Juice bloggers may have a different position on this point I will enforce it on my personal writings. If you continue trying to divert attention from my stories I will delete your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I guess it&#039;s hard to read my incredulity in the written word, at his indifference to the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I guess it&#8217;s hard to read my incredulity in the written word, at his indifference to the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Give me a break!?!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give me a break!?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best you can come up with?  You are truly amazing!  Anybody is better then a person who signs a petition to recall someone and is the treasure of that committee and then is the first person to pull papers for the very office (kind of self serving wouldn&#039;t you say) and now we find out he might have committed unlawful acts and files reports after deadlines (if he even files it!  Maybe not because of all the challenges before their group).  Doesn&#039;t sound like the kind of City Council person I&#039;d want representing my city!  Make sure you cover the DT story as well as the CL story with the same vim and vigor as this DL story.  I&#039;m sure I can come up with reasons why DT is not married, etc......... Just like the claims you are attempting to make as a &quot;reporter&quot; on DL. Most peole like well rounded stories and not one sided ones!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best you can come up with?  You are truly amazing!  Anybody is better then a person who signs a petition to recall someone and is the treasure of that committee and then is the first person to pull papers for the very office (kind of self serving wouldn&#8217;t you say) and now we find out he might have committed unlawful acts and files reports after deadlines (if he even files it!  Maybe not because of all the challenges before their group).  Doesn&#8217;t sound like the kind of City Council person I&#8217;d want representing my city!  Make sure you cover the DT story as well as the CL story with the same vim and vigor as this DL story.  I&#8217;m sure I can come up with reasons why DT is not married, etc&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; Just like the claims you are attempting to make as a &#8220;reporter&#8221; on DL. Most peole like well rounded stories and not one sided ones!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulie.
At times we find ourselves in a no win position. One one hand I get accused of failing to follow up when it relates to Connie Lee&#039;s recall petition process. Then I receive comments from another person with allegations that Dave Leckness hired an illegal worker in his print shop whose wife previously baby sat for Dave&#039;s children.  As stated above I did not react to those two comments until I had the opportunity to confront Dave directly. If I ignored it I would be accused of failing to investigate the charge in giving Dave a pass. 
With regard to the individual who alleges an improper Petition process by Connie the chief of police services commenced his investigation before I had a chance to contact that man. At this point I doubt that the petitioner will provide any credible data to me.

The issue of city vendors employing undocumented workers became an Ordinance by our city council who feel that this is an important issue. Having used Kwik Kopy for myself and other political candidates printing I have been in the back area of his shop, walking by the presses and the artists who design and layout customer orders. On the basis of that first hand exposure I can report that he does not employ that many workers. I cannot speak for his hiring practices nor how many employee interviews he has conducted over the past 25 years. The fact that Dave acknowledged the name Gilberto and his wife, followed by stating that Gilberto still works for him might be perceived that he doesn&#039;t comply with the law as it relates to his own business and may not feel that it is important even though we currently enforce the E-Verify Ordinance as it relates to all of our City contracts. 
At this point my only comment on this area of this post is that our chief of police services has responded to me by e-mail. I will not divulge any further information until his department can take whatever action, if any, is deemed appropriate.

As to fake documents. My sense, after speaking to Dave last week, is that he never bothered to ask if the applicant was a citizen or his having a Green Card. Truth be told I wonder how many small business owners have asked that very question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulie.<br />
At times we find ourselves in a no win position. One one hand I get accused of failing to follow up when it relates to Connie Lee&#8217;s recall petition process. Then I receive comments from another person with allegations that Dave Leckness hired an illegal worker in his print shop whose wife previously baby sat for Dave&#8217;s children.  As stated above I did not react to those two comments until I had the opportunity to confront Dave directly. If I ignored it I would be accused of failing to investigate the charge in giving Dave a pass.<br />
With regard to the individual who alleges an improper Petition process by Connie the chief of police services commenced his investigation before I had a chance to contact that man. At this point I doubt that the petitioner will provide any credible data to me.</p>
<p>The issue of city vendors employing undocumented workers became an Ordinance by our city council who feel that this is an important issue. Having used Kwik Kopy for myself and other political candidates printing I have been in the back area of his shop, walking by the presses and the artists who design and layout customer orders. On the basis of that first hand exposure I can report that he does not employ that many workers. I cannot speak for his hiring practices nor how many employee interviews he has conducted over the past 25 years. The fact that Dave acknowledged the name Gilberto and his wife, followed by stating that Gilberto still works for him might be perceived that he doesn&#8217;t comply with the law as it relates to his own business and may not feel that it is important even though we currently enforce the E-Verify Ordinance as it relates to all of our City contracts.<br />
At this point my only comment on this area of this post is that our chief of police services has responded to me by e-mail. I will not divulge any further information until his department can take whatever action, if any, is deemed appropriate.</p>
<p>As to fake documents. My sense, after speaking to Dave last week, is that he never bothered to ask if the applicant was a citizen or his having a Green Card. Truth be told I wonder how many small business owners have asked that very question.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie shore</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, If this guy gave Dave false documents would Dave know that. I know a lot of employer&#039;s get the required documents but don&#039;t necesarly do a background check. Esp. small businesses. Is the E-Verify a public document. Can you check it out. I do not think Dave would knowing hire an illegal. These guys are really good at getting fake documents. Its a problem that our state government has really done nothing about. Its a shame, esp with the bad economy when citzens are strugling for jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, If this guy gave Dave false documents would Dave know that. I know a lot of employer&#8217;s get the required documents but don&#8217;t necesarly do a background check. Esp. small businesses. Is the E-Verify a public document. Can you check it out. I do not think Dave would knowing hire an illegal. These guys are really good at getting fake documents. Its a problem that our state government has really done nothing about. Its a shame, esp with the bad economy when citzens are strugling for jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/12/does-mv-recall-candidate-dave-leckness-employ-an-undocumented-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-113627</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin. Are you serious. How would he know?
I have interviewed, hired and terminated employees in our own firm. You ask them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin. Are you serious. How would he know?<br />
I have interviewed, hired and terminated employees in our own firm. You ask them.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would he know?  Was that really his response?  And his main concern is businesses in the city?  Most businesses know that they have to comply with federal, state, and city laws....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would he know?  Was that really his response?  And his main concern is businesses in the city?  Most businesses know that they have to comply with federal, state, and city laws&#8230;.</p>
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