If somebody posts a video in the forest and nobody comments on it, did it really happen? Maybe or maybe not, but we can’t let that happen to Brother Crowley.
What a meaningless goofy piece of fluff. I would credit God if all the advertisements for this pompous anti-Muslim demagogue Dennis Prager disappeared off the bus stop benches in my county. But of course I might not be the one to ask, not being an atheist. Are you now a spokesman for religion Terry?
I really love the part at about 1:20 where Prager assumes our reaction to God saying HI to all of us in our own language would be “must be a rightwing Republican trick.” Right, first thing I would do, blame the Republicans. You know, Republicans = God, and all.
NOT!
Nietszche: “I’d be more inclined to believe in this God of Christianity if I saw Christians behaving more like Christ.”
But I’ll play along. Since Prager is Jewish, I will tell him what the God of the Israelites did to convince everyone to believe in him. Very simple: He communicated to a group of people. Some believed in him and some didn’t. He then killed the non-believers, then voila, you have 100% believers. In a sense, Christians believe that God will do the same to the rest of the world come the end of time. Isn’t that true?
Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: \ˈfāth\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
Date: 13th century
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one’s promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs
synonyms see belief
— on faith : without question
His point in the lecture is to solidify his listeners faith. Important lecture because if you question say God then you start to loose faith and so compromise the control aspect of religion.
Can apply to politics too…and is used together by conservatives.
He’s so right. If God comes down right now and talks to me, the first thing I’d say is, “Rush, Rushhh, is that you, Limbaugh? I’m not falling for your Republican trick”
Come on now Terry, admit it. Prager is a dork, at least in this particular clip.
And he has that same singsong, wide-eyed, “I’m explaining things to first graders” tone to his delivery, as John Stossel does in his economic propaganda (see an earlier video of Terry’s.) Is this called being in touch with your average American, Terry? Talking to them like children?
If indeed Bach and Shakespeare cause us to suspect divine guidance in the destiny and evolution of the human mind and spirit, the existence of someone like Dennis Prager comes along and dashes that notion to the ground.
I’m just fascinated at the racist reaction by you bunch of leftist lunatics. Smarmy, dork, dumb. Jewish, get it? Really classy anti-semitism from a bunch of heavy breathing unanalytic lobotomy victims.
Running around swatting at imaginary flies just because your anti-religious, humanistic brethren attend the same Daily Kook rituals. Nice. Gave me a good laugh.
The Left believes in removing America’s Judeo-Christian identity, e.g., removing “under God” from the Pledge, “In God we trust” from the currency, the oath to God and country from the Boy Scouts Pledge, etc. The Left regards America as morally inferior to many European societies with their abolition of the death penalty, cradle-to-grave welfare and religion-free life; and it does not believe that there are distinctive American values worth preserving. The Left believes that the Boy Scouts as currently constituted pose a moral threat to society. The Left believes in equality more than in liberty. The Left believes that poverty, racism and psychopathology cause violent crime. The Left believes that “war is not the answer” when it is the only answer to evil government.
And at least when a religious person uses faith, its about whats best for themselves. It isn’t distorted in the service of what’s good for everyone else. Only zealot collectivists in the modern era are guilty of that little treasure.
What a bunch of CRAP!
As someone who was BORN ( and we are ALL born atheists) and RAISED as an atheist and REMAINS AN ATHEIST, I’ll tell you EXACTLY how god can “prove” his existence to me, WHY doesn’t he just follow through on his threats. If someone lies or cheats or commits murder, WHY doesn’t god just smite them down?
Prager’s half assed “proofs”, prove nothing and then he adds a PHONY “timeline”, like god can’t keep proving his existence, WHY NOT? Where’s he going? What could be more important? Is god bored with those he created in his own image? Is god just too damn busy or just too lazy to care? WTF??????
You equate anybody with a nickle’s worth of brains as a “leftist” simply because they see this idiot Prager as a menace to intelligent thought. And that makes me a racist?
You’d better start taking your pills again. You’re starting to remind me of last fall.
If you weren’t holed up in some windowless cabin in Idaho I’d consider you a menace, too.
You add such a piercing sliver of class to the rest of the chattering masses I hardly can think of what else to say. Do I mention what an urbanite dreck you are, unable to imagine someplace else besides the concrete jungle as a place to domicile? Do I mention that I think there’s more difference between two sides of the same sheet of paper and you and the bubble children of political correctness and progressivism?
Always here to counter your folly and childish palaver.
A cosmological argument for the existence of God, or some of the aspects of the intelligent design argument carry a million times more intellectual weight than this idiotic rant from Prager. But Crowley, of course, is always drawn to the most inane, cardboard cutout pundits he can find. So predictable.
“I’m just fascinated at the racist reaction by you bunch of leftist lunatics. Smarmy, dork, dumb. Jewish, get it?”
Terry, what the heck are you talking about? How does referring to Prager as dumb and dorky makes me a racist? As far as mentioning his Jewish faith, I didn’t mean that to be a racist attack… unless YOU somehow equate him being a Jew a bad thing. I was simply commenting on his faith, which is a topic of this thread.
There you guys go, taking Terry seriously. If you respond to everything in a diatribe like his comment #9, not only will you spend way too much time, but you take away from the sheer comedy.
I try to be a good example in a comment like #10, which just allowed #9 to stand there naked in its foolish glory. But now you guys gotta nitpick! Ah, geez…
Then I might as well say it: Has the word “dumb” ever been considered antisemitic code for Jewish before? That has to be a real first. Yah, those DUMB JEWS! You hear that all the time among racist types.
You all realize, don’t you, that TC is still smarting from my calling him out on referring to Rachel Maddow as a carpet chewer, and so he is attempting to pull some kind of wingnut jujitsu on us all. I don’t even know if he believes what he writes any more. I sure hope not, for the sake of his poor overheated brain.
Hello every one, and Love your neighbor, or even your enemies, as Jesus said. Well, I would like to comment on a few of my ideas, and of history from the Bible itself.
Hi Vern, good point, Christians dont act perfect, or even worst than heathens, doing worst to there own, and so they are worst then heathens, lol. Its True!, I know, I have had it done to myself as well. So whats the difference between the Christian, and the Heathen, its on both sides of the cross of Jesus. Two thiefs hung with Jesus, however, one said this man does not deserve this death,and asked to go to Heaven with Jesus,and Jesus said in my words, hey, your going to be up with me today, so, its the faith,and the asking, and the grace of God in that man. Now the other guy, well, he was as the other half of this world, and playing games, and saying hey, your Gods property, and so get yourself down from there, just a knowing he to would be given the deal with Jesus, and be taken down. Games, and Heathens, and all of those that are not even wanting salvation threw the plans of God. This is the common difference of men. One side asking for the grace, and the forgiveness of God threw Jesus, and the other half othe world, planing, playing games, and finding a different way to heaven, or there heaven as they make it all up.
Amazing huh! Gods ways are not as our ways, so how can we figure him out, well, some have the eyes to see,and the ears to hear, and are reborn of God, but yes we fail,and sin. As it says, the man that owes God much, Loves God much! Ok. WE are owers, and big time, and me too, lol!
Hey Lam Hello, Jesus loves ya! Yes God should kill us all, lol. Its true, but as Grace threw Jesus protects us all,and the world, till God does come to the time of Judgements, and as God has said, I Store Up my Wrath for the day Of Judgement. Yes, and as I see, the ones standing will kneel, but I say it was be so scary, mens heart will be faint,and they will be so weak, they will fall to there knees, and in fear, and in trembling. Its not going to be a good day for those on that day. So it is known, if your guilty of one sin, you might as well be guilty of all sin, cause if you dont have the plan of God, Jesus, your going to be in deep trouble, and to the fires of Hell.
Jim, hello, so what can we remember in history, well Sodem,and lots wife, and the whole city distroyed, and knoa, and the ark, the whole world distroyed, and the ark is in the mountains in an arial photo still today. Well it is the same deal, God has spoken,and in his Judgements, and his laws, and as to the hardness of mens hearts, even the law of not to kill, derrr, now did God really have to make the laws, yes, cause men just want to get away with everyting, and its the law that was given to draw the line on it all. So what are we doing today, removing some of the laws, as though men can have a say so about what God has already said. Well Grace will not always be with America, or with men, and God will again draw a line on it all..
Terry, …….Well said, Brother!!! Hey, believe me God is not too busy, so, Anonster, your wondering about God, its like God says, I store up my judgements for that day, and my wrath, and to case all of those that did not take my Son Jesus as there savior, and killed my profits, and made up other Gods as well. This is all to my understanding, and theres a Bible out there, and if you care, read IT!!!
Hey, Pray for America, and stop playing games with the law, cause the law is nothing but death to all,and can not save anyone of you, but Jesus is the one,and Gods Plan,and many have the eyes, but cant see, and many have the ears, but cant hear,and why is this. Simple, because they fight against God, and the Grace of Jesus. Pray to be saved, and its Grace you will live, and live the second life. Dont worry about your failures, cause Jesus have won all the battles you will ever need to be won,and has finished the greatest plan ever, SALVATION for all of mankind coming to Gods Plan.
Good night, and love one another, at least try. Thanks for the time. Bob
Hey Bob I enjoyed your sincere and heartfelt comment. I hope you don’t mind I put paragraph breaks in it. It’s really hard to read when it’s all one big mass!
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If somebody posts a video in the forest and nobody comments on it, did it really happen? Maybe or maybe not, but we can’t let that happen to Brother Crowley.
What a meaningless goofy piece of fluff. I would credit God if all the advertisements for this pompous anti-Muslim demagogue Dennis Prager disappeared off the bus stop benches in my county. But of course I might not be the one to ask, not being an atheist. Are you now a spokesman for religion Terry?
I really love the part at about 1:20 where Prager assumes our reaction to God saying HI to all of us in our own language would be “must be a rightwing Republican trick.” Right, first thing I would do, blame the Republicans. You know, Republicans = God, and all.
NOT!
Nietszche: “I’d be more inclined to believe in this God of Christianity if I saw Christians behaving more like Christ.”
LOL, Prager is just dumb.
But I’ll play along. Since Prager is Jewish, I will tell him what the God of the Israelites did to convince everyone to believe in him. Very simple: He communicated to a group of people. Some believed in him and some didn’t. He then killed the non-believers, then voila, you have 100% believers. In a sense, Christians believe that God will do the same to the rest of the world come the end of time. Isn’t that true?
There are no Republicans in many countries, they all must be hopelessly lost, going with this reasoning.
He is correct, that God could not do anything to convince everyone the he or she exists. You either believe or you don’t
The basis for religion is faith.
Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: \ˈfāth\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
Date: 13th century
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one’s promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs
synonyms see belief
— on faith : without question
His point in the lecture is to solidify his listeners faith. Important lecture because if you question say God then you start to loose faith and so compromise the control aspect of religion.
Can apply to politics too…and is used together by conservatives.
He’s so right. If God comes down right now and talks to me, the first thing I’d say is, “Rush, Rushhh, is that you, Limbaugh? I’m not falling for your Republican trick”
Come on now Terry, admit it. Prager is a dork, at least in this particular clip.
And he has that same singsong, wide-eyed, “I’m explaining things to first graders” tone to his delivery, as John Stossel does in his economic propaganda (see an earlier video of Terry’s.) Is this called being in touch with your average American, Terry? Talking to them like children?
If indeed Bach and Shakespeare cause us to suspect divine guidance in the destiny and evolution of the human mind and spirit, the existence of someone like Dennis Prager comes along and dashes that notion to the ground.
Prager University? What a hoot! Can someone get a degree in massage therapy there?
Seriously, aside from the fatuous topic and the smarmy delivery, I did notice at the end that Prager seems to give God credit for – Evolution!
I’m just fascinated at the racist reaction by you bunch of leftist lunatics. Smarmy, dork, dumb. Jewish, get it? Really classy anti-semitism from a bunch of heavy breathing unanalytic lobotomy victims.
Running around swatting at imaginary flies just because your anti-religious, humanistic brethren attend the same Daily Kook rituals. Nice. Gave me a good laugh.
The Left believes in removing America’s Judeo-Christian identity, e.g., removing “under God” from the Pledge, “In God we trust” from the currency, the oath to God and country from the Boy Scouts Pledge, etc. The Left regards America as morally inferior to many European societies with their abolition of the death penalty, cradle-to-grave welfare and religion-free life; and it does not believe that there are distinctive American values worth preserving. The Left believes that the Boy Scouts as currently constituted pose a moral threat to society. The Left believes in equality more than in liberty. The Left believes that poverty, racism and psychopathology cause violent crime. The Left believes that “war is not the answer” when it is the only answer to evil government.
And at least when a religious person uses faith, its about whats best for themselves. It isn’t distorted in the service of what’s good for everyone else. Only zealot collectivists in the modern era are guilty of that little treasure.
LOL. On cue, the man himself, tilting not at us but his ever-multiplying legion of strawmen.
What a bunch of CRAP!
As someone who was BORN ( and we are ALL born atheists) and RAISED as an atheist and REMAINS AN ATHEIST, I’ll tell you EXACTLY how god can “prove” his existence to me, WHY doesn’t he just follow through on his threats. If someone lies or cheats or commits murder, WHY doesn’t god just smite them down?
Prager’s half assed “proofs”, prove nothing and then he adds a PHONY “timeline”, like god can’t keep proving his existence, WHY NOT? Where’s he going? What could be more important? Is god bored with those he created in his own image? Is god just too damn busy or just too lazy to care? WTF??????
Really sad and pathetic, Terry.
You equate anybody with a nickle’s worth of brains as a “leftist” simply because they see this idiot Prager as a menace to intelligent thought. And that makes me a racist?
You’d better start taking your pills again. You’re starting to remind me of last fall.
If you weren’t holed up in some windowless cabin in Idaho I’d consider you a menace, too.
Zenger,
You add such a piercing sliver of class to the rest of the chattering masses I hardly can think of what else to say. Do I mention what an urbanite dreck you are, unable to imagine someplace else besides the concrete jungle as a place to domicile? Do I mention that I think there’s more difference between two sides of the same sheet of paper and you and the bubble children of political correctness and progressivism?
Always here to counter your folly and childish palaver.
A cosmological argument for the existence of God, or some of the aspects of the intelligent design argument carry a million times more intellectual weight than this idiotic rant from Prager. But Crowley, of course, is always drawn to the most inane, cardboard cutout pundits he can find. So predictable.
“I’m just fascinated at the racist reaction by you bunch of leftist lunatics. Smarmy, dork, dumb. Jewish, get it?”
Terry, what the heck are you talking about? How does referring to Prager as dumb and dorky makes me a racist? As far as mentioning his Jewish faith, I didn’t mean that to be a racist attack… unless YOU somehow equate him being a Jew a bad thing. I was simply commenting on his faith, which is a topic of this thread.
There you guys go, taking Terry seriously. If you respond to everything in a diatribe like his comment #9, not only will you spend way too much time, but you take away from the sheer comedy.
I try to be a good example in a comment like #10, which just allowed #9 to stand there naked in its foolish glory. But now you guys gotta nitpick! Ah, geez…
Then I might as well say it: Has the word “dumb” ever been considered antisemitic code for Jewish before? That has to be a real first. Yah, those DUMB JEWS! You hear that all the time among racist types.
You all realize, don’t you, that TC is still smarting from my calling him out on referring to Rachel Maddow as a carpet chewer, and so he is attempting to pull some kind of wingnut jujitsu on us all. I don’t even know if he believes what he writes any more. I sure hope not, for the sake of his poor overheated brain.
Hello every one, and Love your neighbor, or even your enemies, as Jesus said. Well, I would like to comment on a few of my ideas, and of history from the Bible itself.
Hi Vern, good point, Christians dont act perfect, or even worst than heathens, doing worst to there own, and so they are worst then heathens, lol. Its True!, I know, I have had it done to myself as well. So whats the difference between the Christian, and the Heathen, its on both sides of the cross of Jesus. Two thiefs hung with Jesus, however, one said this man does not deserve this death,and asked to go to Heaven with Jesus,and Jesus said in my words, hey, your going to be up with me today, so, its the faith,and the asking, and the grace of God in that man. Now the other guy, well, he was as the other half of this world, and playing games, and saying hey, your Gods property, and so get yourself down from there, just a knowing he to would be given the deal with Jesus, and be taken down. Games, and Heathens, and all of those that are not even wanting salvation threw the plans of God. This is the common difference of men. One side asking for the grace, and the forgiveness of God threw Jesus, and the other half othe world, planing, playing games, and finding a different way to heaven, or there heaven as they make it all up.
Amazing huh! Gods ways are not as our ways, so how can we figure him out, well, some have the eyes to see,and the ears to hear, and are reborn of God, but yes we fail,and sin. As it says, the man that owes God much, Loves God much! Ok. WE are owers, and big time, and me too, lol!
Hey Lam Hello, Jesus loves ya! Yes God should kill us all, lol. Its true, but as Grace threw Jesus protects us all,and the world, till God does come to the time of Judgements, and as God has said, I Store Up my Wrath for the day Of Judgement. Yes, and as I see, the ones standing will kneel, but I say it was be so scary, mens heart will be faint,and they will be so weak, they will fall to there knees, and in fear, and in trembling. Its not going to be a good day for those on that day. So it is known, if your guilty of one sin, you might as well be guilty of all sin, cause if you dont have the plan of God, Jesus, your going to be in deep trouble, and to the fires of Hell.
Jim, hello, so what can we remember in history, well Sodem,and lots wife, and the whole city distroyed, and knoa, and the ark, the whole world distroyed, and the ark is in the mountains in an arial photo still today. Well it is the same deal, God has spoken,and in his Judgements, and his laws, and as to the hardness of mens hearts, even the law of not to kill, derrr, now did God really have to make the laws, yes, cause men just want to get away with everyting, and its the law that was given to draw the line on it all. So what are we doing today, removing some of the laws, as though men can have a say so about what God has already said. Well Grace will not always be with America, or with men, and God will again draw a line on it all..
Terry, …….Well said, Brother!!! Hey, believe me God is not too busy, so, Anonster, your wondering about God, its like God says, I store up my judgements for that day, and my wrath, and to case all of those that did not take my Son Jesus as there savior, and killed my profits, and made up other Gods as well. This is all to my understanding, and theres a Bible out there, and if you care, read IT!!!
Hey, Pray for America, and stop playing games with the law, cause the law is nothing but death to all,and can not save anyone of you, but Jesus is the one,and Gods Plan,and many have the eyes, but cant see, and many have the ears, but cant hear,and why is this. Simple, because they fight against God, and the Grace of Jesus. Pray to be saved, and its Grace you will live, and live the second life. Dont worry about your failures, cause Jesus have won all the battles you will ever need to be won,and has finished the greatest plan ever, SALVATION for all of mankind coming to Gods Plan.
Good night, and love one another, at least try. Thanks for the time. Bob
Hey Bob I enjoyed your sincere and heartfelt comment. I hope you don’t mind I put paragraph breaks in it. It’s really hard to read when it’s all one big mass!
“Urbanite dreck”
Now I’ve gotta admit, that’s an insult that precludes rejoinder.
Still, Terry I suggest that if you cut a couple windows into your cabin walls for light and air you may discover a new perspective on life.