We reported yesterday that the campaign to recall Anthony Adams failed – and that it was the fault of former GOP powerbroker, now miserable loser, Mike Schroeder. But it gets better!
None other than nutter Tim Whitacre was at the helm of the failed campaign!
“Recall campaign manager Tim Whitacre and recall proponents Lee Lowry and Mike Schroeder, a former California Republican Party chairman, did not return calls for comment. Recall proponents paid more then $110,000 to have petitions circulated, according to campaign records,” according to the San Gabriel Valley Tribune.
LOL! Whitacre is a high school grad who sells houses and mortgages for a living. He serves on the OC GOP Central Committee. He was involved in the recall of former SAUSD Trustee Nativo Lopez a few years ago. Sorry Timmy! You will NEVER repeat that success…
Ironically Whitacre and Schroeder are each backing different candidates for O.C. Sheriff.
Whitacre is the campaign manger for Bill Hunt, who used to work for Schroeder’s disgraced pal Mike Carona. It was Whitacre’s idea to bring in Mexican-hater Joe Arpaio recently to campaign for Hunt.
Schroeder is backing Anaheim Deputy Police Chief Craig Hunter. Both will lose to incumbent Sheriff Sandra Hutchens.
What a bunch of losers we have at the helm of the OC GOP…
UPDATE: Whitacre’s fellow Talibani Republican, high school basketball coach Chris Emami, has turned on Whitacre over at Red County. Here is just one pointed excerpt from Emami’s post:
Campaign Manager Tim Whitacre cannot go without taking a great deal of blame for this as well. I think that he really dropped the ball. He was working a campaign that had over $100,000, a slew of grassroots volunteers, and a popular radio show backing the recall. I was not inside this campaign, but I definitely saw a great deal of flaws from the outside looking in.
Emami later corrected himself when he discovered that Whitacre actually had $200K at his disposal.
Amongst the other allegations Emami made were that Whitacre set up the recall petition to print out at the wrong size. And Whitacre failed to check the signatures as they were collected. And so on and so on.
A Red County reader pitched in as well, “He had Derrick Lee from Arizona bring in people from out of state who were homeless, dirty and drug- ridden collecting sigs.”
Wonderful! I wonder if those dirty, drug-ridden signature gatherers looked like this:
Yeah, and I’ll bet Whitaker and Schroeder drew a salary or fees from this recall campaign. Then again, I am a suspicious type.
Just a high school grad who makes a living selling houses? My, how snobby that sounds. So are you a fan of Anthony Adams? Or worse, the deal making crew that settled on Adams being one of the 6 to double cross the voters who believed him when he signed a pledge?
I’m sorry he failed. Too bad. Hope Adams and crew don’t get the wrong message.
Oh, and about Hunt, I’m not a fan of Arpaio either. That may play well to the crowd that likes cheap red meat to scapegoat all the blame for the financial mess we’re in. But my understanding of Hunt is that he’s a defender of conceal carry licenses, unlike Sandra Hitchens who is handpicked by the political machine establishment in OC, that likes to wave around a lot of rah rah red meat platitudes but keep the voters at bay and at their self-serving service.
Martha,
Whitacre is the Mexican hater that brought Arpaio to Orange County. Whitacre hates immigrants but he is an under-educated loser himself.
I admire immigrants who work hard to improve their lot and to provide for their loved ones. Whitacre, by comparison, is a leach.
I don’t care what Hunt stands for. Knowing he is affiliated with Whitacre is reason enough not to vote for him.
As for Adams, yes he sucks. But it is BS for OC nutters to try to recall folks in other counties.
Art says:
‘he is an under-educated loser”
Is that how you feel about the vast majority of the residents of Santa Ana? Most don’t have even a high school degree.
#5,
No. That’s just what I think of Tim.
take a bow post 5 did you see that the the law breaker supporter pedroza left a key word out of his rant a immigrant hater hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe the word ILLEGAL .
#7,
You mean like the immigrant Mexicana that Timmy knocked up about 12 years ago? The one he refused to marry because she didn’t speak English?
Whitacre is a hypocrite!
Art, I’ll have you know that I was with Tim when this photo of him was taken. He was at a church meeting when he was praying for the souls of the O.J. staff!
Don’t you think that’s a pretty crude way to describe the way 90% of the young muchachas in Santa Ana become pregnant? Do you use the word “bastard” to describe their offspring as well? How do you say “knocked up” in Spanish? I bet you wouldn’t use the term to the face of the families in Santa Ana that find themselves in the same situation as Tim. Tim is one of the best fathers in the world. Maybe a better dad than you.
#9,
LOL! I took that picture at the Norby victory party…not sure why Timmy was there.
#10,
Whatever. I’m sure you thought Mike Duvall was a swell guy too.
What a waste of time this was.
The scariest part of this whole money wasting exercise was how little the “RECALL ADAMS” understood about the way Sacramento works.
On the other hand, maybe they did and were just look ing for some free press to keep them “alive” while the ship was not so slowly sinking.
This effort should be tagged “STUNT”.
The earlier post indicated Schroeder doesn’t have the “pull” he used to? Sorry to tell you this, but this has nothing to do with “pull”. It has to do with the method of random sampling used for petition signatures. And by the way, this isn’t over yet.
MJS is tenacious. And frankly his pull has nothing to do with it. He is a wealthy, self made “true believer” and isn’t beholden to anyone. #1′s suggestion he was getting paid for this is laughable and is indicative of the true lack of knowledge of posters on this site. Schroeder doesn’t need the money. Neither does Lowrey for that matter. While I don’t necessarily support the bent of fellow posters here, Whitaker is an a**-clown of the highest order and is totally self-serving.
My guess is that most of you on this site have no historical recollection of MJS’s sucessful recall of three state legislators in the early 90s. He had much less “pull” then, but the same tenacity. I bet you can’t name those three former, recalled legislators without using a Google search, which is evidence of how little inside baseball you know but desire to report on.
You should stick to talking about things you have some real insight on. The recall may not qualify, but that will depend entirely on whether a judge will hear a case on whether the random sampling was done properly.
#14,
You are referring to recalls that happened ages ago. Today the OC GOP has almost no pull in Sacramento. And there is almost zero chance that Republicans will hang on to the Governor’s office.
Schroeder still has a statewide network of assh*le Republicans, but they are red eunuchs in a blue state.
Wait until Hutchens punks Schroeder’s pick for Sheriff…then perhaps you will understand the depths to which he has sunk.
If nothing else one has to wonder why he thought hiring Whitacre was a good idea?
Art,
But I know for a fact that you weren’t around or active then and no one on this site has perspective from being in the trenches at that time. I didn’t realize that 14 years was “ages” ago. I was there, and the issues were very similar in terms of rank and file GOPers (not nutters, as you call them) feeling like they bought one thing and were given another. Back then it was a 41 vote majority trying to get around an indentured speaker. With Adams it was a simple promise (God forbid an elected keep one of those) that many “normal” GOPers took to hold a line on taxes (by the way, a purerly fiscal issue that is not tainted by the normal race issues this site tends to bait). That tax promise was focal to a state-wide GOP strategy of fiscal constraint. So, aside from the personalities, what is the real difference? The techincial issue of whether the random sample was skewed will be dealt with by the SOS and the courts. It has nothing to do with MJS or his pull. You will be glad (scared) to knwo that he will never be marginalized for the simple reason that he has made too much money. He can play in any sandbox he chooses.
#16,
Schroeder’s money is immaterial. And it is likely that he took it in the shorts too when the market collapsed.
If money is all that matters, why is Schroeder’s pick for Governor, Poizner, at 9% in the polls?
Schroeder’s pull is most suspect. That goes for the OC GOP in general. If the DPOC weren’t so lame they might actually be able to turn the OC blue in a couple of years…
Instead, Republicans and Dems alike will continue to leave their parties in droves.
And wait until the Open Primary starts up again. Between that and the undoing of gerrymandering, Schroeder and his boys are DONE!
NoLongerFTP: “My guess is that most of you on this site have no historical recollection of MJS’s sucessful recall of three state legislators in the early 90s. …. You should stick to talking about things you have some real insight on.”
You appear to be a political insider and you have some insights for this thread. I don’t think anyone really needs to be an “expert” on any given subject and I think that hazarding a guess or putting forth assumptions are in the realm of what happens on a good blog. YOU’ve stepped up to fill in some details. If OJ hadn’t attempted to start up this subject, there would never have been this depth of conversation. ~just saying
Who says Whitacre is Hunt’s campaign Manager. Hunt or Whitacre? We know Schroeder supports Hunter which is probably not a good thing for Hunter if anybody remembers Schroeder defending Carona even after Carona was indicted. As for the recall I am sure Schroeder will be Schroeder and throw Whitacre under the bus.
#19,
The OC Weekly has outed Timmy as Hunt’s campaign manager, at this link: http://www.ocweekly.com/2009-11-12/news/joe-arpaio-bill-hunt-sheriff/.
I am sure Hunt is having buyer’s remorse by now!
RV: Point taken. The thread started here is worth discussing and I do like how the blog picks up interesting items. But its the premise of the post that I am taking issue with. The failure of the recall to meet the sig requirements has nothing to do with Schroeder and probably, at best, a**-clown Whitaker had little impact on that. The more interesting issue in my mind is why the sigs didn’t qualify. Was it skewed statstics that undermines the democratic ideals behind a recall effort? Was it shoddy signature gathering by paid circulators? The later is a “D’oh” for the recall campaign; the former is a public policy issue that should be investigated and rectified. My retort to the author was to indicate that the mid-nineties recall triumvirate and the recall attempted of Adams have real similarities. Nonetheleast of these is the involvement of MJS, who (like it or not) is a true activist.
Art: I guarantee you that the market collapse and not hindered any ability of Schroeder to impact politics. As for Poizner, that has nothting to do with money and everything to do with the intersection of Schroeder’s businesses and Poizner’s regulatory purview as Insurance Commissioner. D’uh! If I was MJS, I would support Poizner too, even if he was totally doomed to fail. Finally, as for the open primary, what most supporters of that don’t realize is that it will actually move the process away from the voters. We’re headed for a caucus system to pick nominees. Another “D’oh!”
#19 I don’t think he is Art even though the Weekly says so. How could he be the campaign manager for two different causes at the same time? Not likely. If it came from Hunt then that would be a different matter.
#22,
That is not unusual. Al Amezcua’s consultant is also running a campaign for State Insurance Commissioner.
But Whitacre is a buffoon. I am sure Hunt is looking to replace him if he has not done so already!
NoLongerFTP,
I enjoy reading your posts. You’re not shy and you get your point across
On Friday November 20, CA Secretary of State Debra Bowen declared that the recall of Assemblyman Anthony Adams had failed to collect enough valid signatures to call a special election. The campaign needed to gather 35,825 signatures from registered voters in the 59th District. In the end, 58,384 signatures were collected and turned in. Los Angeles County Registrar of Voters reported in a 65 percent validity rate from a random sample of 500 signatures while San Bernardino County reported a substantially lower validity rate from a random sample of 1,339 signatures. The conventional wisdom is that the results from both counties are not adequate to call a special election.
The big question now is how could this have happen? A cushion of over 20,000 signatures was collected over the required amount. Although speculative, there are several scenarios.
1. The San Bernardino County Registrar of Voters pulled a random sample containing more invalid signatures than valid ones. Although not entirely impossible, it would definitely be considered a statistical anomaly for this to happen.
2. The paid signature gathering operation turned in an overwhelming number of invalid signatures. This is highly unlikely given that the signature gathering operation was contractually obligated to meet a 70 percent validity rate. In addition, verification of signatures collected was performed independently of the signature gathering operation.
3. Irregularities were perpetrated by one or both of the Registrar of Voters. The huge difference in validity rates between Los Angeles and San Bernardino Counties is highly inconceivable when the same signature gathering operation was used in both counties. These results suggest that two very different standards were employed by each ROV. This scenario warrants further investigation.
In addition, there are other questions to be answered. For instance, in an article from the Hesperia Star, Adams was quoted from an interview that was conducted at a Veterans Day event. For one, Adams said of the Committee to Recall Adams petition drive, “There are lots of bad signatures.” How could Adams possibly know this when the results were not public back on November 11?
At this point, one thing is for certain, – this is NOT over and Committee to Recall Adams intends to pursue a thorough investigation of how there could be a significant discrepancy in validity rates between the two counties.
Our Committee has invested a significant amount of time and effort to conduct due diligence every step of the way to avoid the typical pitfalls that can derail a campaign. First and foremost, the hired campaign manager and the paid signature gathering company were seasoned professionals that had run successful recall campaigns before. Second, our committee consists of longtime political activists from various professional backgrounds including legal, finance, marketing, sales, high tech, and communications, as well as government. This is to ensure that every aspect of the campaign can be managed with expertise from across different fields. On top of all else, many of us have worked on numerous successful campaigns including other recall elections.
Since February, our Committee has raised over $162,000, collected nearly 60,000 signatures and worked too hard to give up now. We owe it to all the campaign volunteers, donors, as well as KFI’s John & Ken Show and its listeners to make sure we’re afforded due process. This current development is a temporary setback. We are immediately filing an appeal to the denial and will pursue every avenue available to us to see that this Recall goes forward. At this time, we ask all of our supporters to maintain confidence that we’re on the right track and are doing everything in our power to guarantee that we’re given a fair shot. We will keep all of our supporters updated on a timely basis as we move forward with this process.
THE COMMITTEE TO RECALL ANTHONY ADAMS
http://www.RecallAdams.org
Tanks RV. I enjoy reading yours and the rest too. It can certainly get my blood pressure up on occassion!
And then you get my responses.
#25 It would be a pretty trivial matter to inspect how each of the registrars selected the signatures they used for their sample. Both counties use Premier Elections Systems (now owned by ES&S) DIMS software for voter registration and election management. My guess would be that the DIMS software provided the random sample from the pool of signatures as defined by the registrars’ staff.
Can’t you simply ask them for the algorithm used? The SOS had to approve it at some point. It should be public record. Then ask them how they identify the signature pool.
The raw numbers are then used by the SOS to make the determination based on a weighted calculation that, if I recall correctly is defined in the California Elections Code.
Unless you are aware of a failure on the part of the registrars to use an approved random sampling technique, what is a judge going to do for you?
It can certainly get my blood pressure up on occassion! And then you get my responses.
NoLongerFTP,
I don’t think OJ could ask for a better compliment than yours. If the posts around here stir you up enough to write some comments, then it’s been a terrific day in blog town! Our mission is accomplished!
Tim is an unprofessional, hate filled moron whose tactics are akin to Adolf Hitler. He is the one posting the anonymous posts in his favor and the recalls favor. I gURANTEE YOU HAD THEY LEFT THE JOB TO THE ORIGINAL MANAGER ONSTAED OF ALLOWING wHITACRE TO UNFAIRLY Harm her ( try to ay least) this would not have happened. He did so many underhanded things to that woman- it is despicable.Tim does not even know what he is doing when it comes to such tasks and is an arrogant, unsrupulous criminal who stops at nothing to lie and attempt to damage others unjustifiably- hypocrite? Yes, by all means he is. I could go on and on about him, but he is not worth another smidgeon of our energy.
You see- there he goes again, spreading lies. She was not fired, she bowed out after futile attempts at battling the dishonesty and the game playing when Whitacre and his druugie friend, Derrick Lee were forced into the camapign for reasons that were sheer political nepotism. His strategy is to slander innocent people because he is the liar, the cheat, the unworthy one. We know that is you Tim and we are well aware of your minset. Attack anyone who gets in your way with filthy, sordid and imoral tactics. Your days are over in politics. What background are you talking about you moron? This woman has an impeccable reputation and it is only thugs like you who try to berate her as you do everyone else. You could not even prove your claims that there were, “illegal” activities with the SB Registrars office. Had you been able to do so, you and the rest of your troop would have been running the streets boisterously in decrees of that. Truth be told- you were merely attempting a feeble try at ” Damge Control”. You have many enemies who know all too well your M.O. So now, since you cannot find anything negative about Catherine Sabatino, you set out by way of blogs like this, to try and damage her name since there was absolutely nothing negative about her on the Internet- only her books- that is until you decided to try to change that. It does little good because your tactics speak for themselves as you are as transparent as glass. Why don’t you take your weel-deserved failure at the Recall and reflect on it? I mean, after all, you are such a devout Christian- Yeah, sure you are- your actions tell that story for what it really is. I feel sorry for you because you are such a pathetic soul. people know that it is you posting such fabrications. You are obviously looking in the mirror when you say such things. Psycholigist call what you are enacting- well, there is a name for it, but I will leave that to you to discover. Go get the much needed help that you are clearly lacking. What an idiot!
Oh. yeah, and Hunt finally opened his eyes. Now you have the time twiddling your thumbs in angst and defeat to soul-search but, fools like you are too arrogantly positioned in Denial to ever do something so beneficial. You opt to utilize your time by sitting on your rump and expending your energy by libelously berating innocent individuals like we have seen on many site. It is well-known that it is you. Go ahead! Enjoy yourself as you gravitate in your state of dementia. catherine sabatino is a wonderful person- ethical,sincere, giving, talented and completely remiss of deranged personality traits such as yours. get a grip, Sir. Adams probably had a design for other projects long before the Recall. Have you no shame? Will you stop at nothing short of squalor as a means of undermining the reps of others out of your sick, deep-seated and envious need for detriment to others? The problem with the Internet is that anyone, even imbeciles like you, can post whatever they want.It does no mean it is true or factual and in you case, it is not at all even remotely true. I hope Catherine Sabatino and others get together and sue you. It is for persons of real integrity to decipher fact from fiction and where your posts are concerned- well, a two year old could see through them.You post repetitious blogs on all the sites like on Red County- exact same ones with more complimentary slanderous ones.Hello! Why don’t you just go back to that other state you came from? maybe you’ll have a second chance there, but, here, well, the results speak for themselves. Everytime you slander her or anyone else, we will come back at you with our blogs to combat your baloney. You are a real study.
“AJ” we can trace who you are so if I were you, I’d stop your slimeball attacks/tactics of trying to run pristine people through the mud. You are none other than, TIM WHITACRE- the gutless, heartless subterfuging low-life who has nothing but failures to his political career’s credit, but for one and it was Lopez. I am contacting sites and asking them to block your blogs about innocent people as they are lies. You should be ashamed of yourself, you slug. This woman Catherine Sabatino never had any issues until indirect contact with you on that Recall- which you destroyed. keep posting lies about her so that we can re-post with the truth about you. Someone should have put you out of your misery along time ago, but, oh, that’s right, you leave the real battles for the REal Marines to fight. You are no Marine, so quit hiding aback of the claim that you were a marine- I guess they let anyone in the Corps these days if you were one . How yu passed their Psyche evaluation behooves me, But then again, anyone as manipulative and crafty such as yourself could fool anyone right? That is until your true personality shows itself for what it is.
Let us all band together and fight this horribly devious retard from ever participating in any other political projects. His cooky hateful party may still accept him, but we do not have to. He is exacting his “Last Hoorah” by blasting blameless people but the coward that he is is evident in the way he uses fake names or even going so far as to use ” Committe Member” or ” The Committe to Recall Adams” when he posts. He uses Aj and a slew of fake titles, But he is TIM WHITACRE -plain and simple and he is a crackpot himself who projects it on others when it is he himself who deserves such names as he tries to give others. The label should be permannently tattoed on his forehead and his backside and on all his cloths- Liar, Crackpot, Theif, Slimebucket, Stop at Nothing Underhanded Wanna Be Politician” and the list goes on. The lengths this man will go to and the mud he will sling is limitless. Everyone keep posting about this crazed Neo- Nazi.So, it is blogs he wants, it is blogs he will get. Post people, post in combative poise against this low-life. Leave Catherine Sabatino alone and all the others like her that you have falsely accused.
If CAS is her, we give her credit because she does not ned to hide unlike you WHITACRE, who rarely reveals his identity with all the posts he makes and then lists some fale name- What a joke you are Whitacre. How funny you are. people are not stupid. they see right through you.
Whitacre and the rest of that disgraced troop should face charges for staeling that money donated, which, by the way, they swore they’d give back. They recoil and refuse to comment, only to claim victory because Adamsis not running again. What tenuous PR that is. Are we all just supposed to buy that? They are down there in the OC acting worse than a bunch of spoiled brats would. It is a dangerous group. So, show us the money. Give it back to the unsuspecting voters and citizens that you took it from