As ObamaCare stays on life support, Americans will soon be enjoined in a new debate about the bills coming out of Congress. There will be no prevaricating. The bill will be out for all to see and Obama will own it. Then the real discussion will start. And here’s Obama’s starting line: $215 billion in new taxes on middle class families and small businesses. Thats families making “under $250,000” and breaks Obamas signature pledge. 59% of voters oppose paying for health care this way. 63% say making sure no one has to lose insurance is more important than the public option, and he has lost ground among non-college educated white men, college educated women, independents and partisan Democrats.
Now, couple that with the fact that soon the discussion will focus on how much the FDA is going to be running peoples health care and, oh yeah, did I mention? Nationalized Health Care is a violation of the Tenth Amendment! Leftists scream rule of law all the time, but only apparently when it suits them. Here’s a reality check: If this socialistic escapade becomes law, as soon as it does, it will be held up by lawsuits to every circuit court in the nation.
I’m serious now. Has anyone got a concrete argument about where the Federal Government gets the power to control the health care of the country, when any power not enumerated to the government is reserved to the states?
Back up your contention with not only where such power comes from, but where that authority is referenced in legislation. Happy Hunting!
Editors Update:
Following the lead of Arizona, Florida, and Michigan, in recent weeks legislators from Louisiana and Georgia announced that they were planning on introducing resolutions for State Constitutional Amendments that would allow the people of those states to effectively opt-out of any future national health care plan.
And now, Ohio joins them.
According to our friends at OhioFreeState.com, Ohio State Senators Grendell and Jones have introduced Senate Joint Resolution & (SJR7).
The resolution proposes:
“to enact Section 43 of Article II of the Constitution of the State of Ohio to prohibit a law or rule from compelling a person, employer, or health care provider to participate in a health care system.”
If passed by the Ohio legislature, the proposal will go directly to Ohio voters for their approval:
If adopted by a majority of the electors voting on this proposal at a special election held February 2, 2010, Section 43 of Article II of the Constitution of the State of Ohio shall take effect immediately.
The resolution in Arizona (HCR2014) has already passed both the House and Senate, and in 2010, Arizona voters will be the final voice on their proposed Constitutional Amendment.
In Florida and Michigan, similar resolutions have been introduced, but have yet to have formal hearing or debates.
Legislators in GA and LA announced that they’ll be introducing similar resolutions in the 2010 legislative session. And sources close to the Tenth Amendment Center indicate that more than 15 states will do the same in 2010.
The reality of states rights in health care are the same as those apply to drug legalization. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091008/ap_on_re_us/us_marijuana_legalization
This trend in California is promising and will only encourage other states to follow suit wherever the Federal Government oversteps its bounds.
With 15 states opting their citizens out of compulsory health care, how much will “universal coverage” improve?
Auto insurance is mandated, if you do not have it your licence can be denied and you can be fined.
What makes health insurance different?
Auto insurance is mandated by the states Jim. And the same logic that says California can decide what to do about marijuana is the same logic that says it can decide what to do about health insurance, for itself. And so can any other state. In fact, in some states, like Ohio Jim, it is legal to drive without car insurance as long as you have another form of financial responsibility.
http://www.bmv.ohio.gov/financial_responsibility/fr_requirements.htm#Financial Responsibility Requirements
If I had the money, and didnt want to pay insurance if I felt I didnt need it, I would go that route.
You’re crazy…and you don’t understand the Constitution. The Congress has EXTREMELY wide latitude when it comes to taxing, spending and legislating. Not a single tax or spending act in the last 70 years has been found to exceed the powers of Congress. Oh yeah…that includes Medicare, nationalized healthcare for seniors. With healthcare hitting 16% of GDP and rising, it is Congress that has the Constitutionally proscribed power to enact healthcare reform. That ain’t a state issue.
You’re ignorant of the Constitution and the facts. Government doesn’t spend the majority of that money on Health Care, people do. People are not the Federal Government, they are the several states. And any power not specifically enumerated are reserved to the several states.
Just because you say it “aint a state issue” doesn’t make it so. Neither does the Federal government have the power to force states to join in.
Good luck with that.
“…any power not specifically enumerated are reserved to the several states”
Oh really;
“All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States…”
and
“The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States…”
The courts have consistently interpreted and held that a program like Medicare fits within Congress’ power to provide for the “general Welfare” of the country. Yes, the entire country.
Notice this writers respect of the Constitution in toto is nearly nil.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
That is the entirety of the Tenth Amendment. Subtle, isn’t it.
So, the writer is going to try to argue that trying to control 1/6th of the economy is a welfare program that the people can’t do themselves.
One, its false. Two, welfare isn’t mandatory. Three, it has no power to coerce the states to abide. New Hampshire wants to ditch a helmet law and say screw off to highway funds, it does. Arizona wants to say screw off to health care mandates, it will. California wants to say “screw the Commerce clause”, we’ll do what we want with marijuana, it will.
That’s America. Enjoy it.
And a significant number of people from each and every state in the Union want to participate in a public healthcare option (just like they do with Medicare) then they will. And the courts will let them.
That’s America. Enjoy it.
Absolutely. We have clarity, which I prefer, over agreement.