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	<title>Comments on: Why does GOP pollster Adam Probolsky need a concealed weapon permit?</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probolsky

A Reep politico thatat the same time pointing out the corrupting culture of some of dems commits the same offense.

This guy is much like many of the other politico from the right in it for the fame, connections, and money.

As long as these guys, Fliesmen Scrotum, &quot;Poorboy&quot;sky are the ones annoited to watch over the elected reeps are party will continue to head down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probolsky</p>
<p>A Reep politico thatat the same time pointing out the corrupting culture of some of dems commits the same offense.</p>
<p>This guy is much like many of the other politico from the right in it for the fame, connections, and money.</p>
<p>As long as these guys, Fliesmen Scrotum, &#8220;Poorboy&#8221;sky are the ones annoited to watch over the elected reeps are party will continue to head down.</p>
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		<title>By: Frijolero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frijolero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Probolsky need a concealed weapon permit?  He needs it in case you try to steal his food!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Probolsky need a concealed weapon permit?  He needs it in case you try to steal his food!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron &#38; Anna Winship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron &#38; Anna Winship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*This whole argument can be answered quite
 simply:  &quot;The Luck of the Draw!&quot; they say
 im poker!

 Years back their was one Sheriff up in Yuba
 County or there abouts....that would give a
 blind 90 year old grandmother a CCW.  The
 Sheriff in Santa Cruz was so upset he backed
 CA legislation to ban all CCW&#039;s and then promptly
 retired after that failed and went to work full
 time for Handgun Control.

 The concept should be this:  Whoever your
 predecessor Sheriff was that issued licenses -
 all licenses should be respected, cronyized or 
 not, unless they are illegal or regulatory
 breaks from the law.   Being that NOT the
 case....our Madam Sheriff has strayed off
 onto the wrong policy track.  But then, that 
 is just our opinion....of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*This whole argument can be answered quite<br />
 simply:  &#8220;The Luck of the Draw!&#8221; they say<br />
 im poker!</p>
<p> Years back their was one Sheriff up in Yuba<br />
 County or there abouts&#8230;.that would give a<br />
 blind 90 year old grandmother a CCW.  The<br />
 Sheriff in Santa Cruz was so upset he backed<br />
 CA legislation to ban all CCW&#8217;s and then promptly<br />
 retired after that failed and went to work full<br />
 time for Handgun Control.</p>
<p> The concept should be this:  Whoever your<br />
 predecessor Sheriff was that issued licenses -<br />
 all licenses should be respected, cronyized or<br />
 not, unless they are illegal or regulatory<br />
 breaks from the law.   Being that NOT the<br />
 case&#8230;.our Madam Sheriff has strayed off<br />
 onto the wrong policy track.  But then, that<br />
 is just our opinion&#8230;.of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Former Juice Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former Juice Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, you&#039;re assuming Art cares about Libertaraian or any other kind of of principles. He doesn&#039;t. He cares about personalities. That&#039;s why he doesn&#039;t see a Second Amendment issue, but sees a chance to rip someone he doesn&#039;t like.

Now he&#039;s back-pedaling now that some of his blog buddies like you disagree with him.

Like I said on another post: the Juice needs more posts from people like Sean Mill, or Vern or Claudio (yeah, i know, he left. Wonder why?). Art&#039;s schtick is getting super old. You used to be normal, Art. Over the top sometimes, but normal. What happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, you&#8217;re assuming Art cares about Libertaraian or any other kind of of principles. He doesn&#8217;t. He cares about personalities. That&#8217;s why he doesn&#8217;t see a Second Amendment issue, but sees a chance to rip someone he doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Now he&#8217;s back-pedaling now that some of his blog buddies like you disagree with him.</p>
<p>Like I said on another post: the Juice needs more posts from people like Sean Mill, or Vern or Claudio (yeah, i know, he left. Wonder why?). Art&#8217;s schtick is getting super old. You used to be normal, Art. Over the top sometimes, but normal. What happened?</p>
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		<title>By: Robspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robspierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art,

Easy to get sidetracked here but just consider that freedom lovers of all shapes and sizes could be concerned if a LAW ABIDING citizen has to explain to his/her government why he/she needs a CW permit. If any citizen feels he/she is in need of a CW permit and they are willing to undergo background checks, training in safety, use etc., why the hell would they owe the government an explanation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,</p>
<p>Easy to get sidetracked here but just consider that freedom lovers of all shapes and sizes could be concerned if a LAW ABIDING citizen has to explain to his/her government why he/she needs a CW permit. If any citizen feels he/she is in need of a CW permit and they are willing to undergo background checks, training in safety, use etc., why the hell would they owe the government an explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7,

I think it is reasonable to ask why folks want a CCW.  Hacks like Probolsky don&#039;t have a good reason to be packing heat.  I think most folks would agree with that.

What got Hutchens in trouble was that she went after ALL the folks who had CCWs. That was too much.  Many of them no doubt have good reasons to carry weapons.  

In the meantime she is ignoring the problems in our county jail and she is not getting much accomplished.  So I think this will all resolve itself and she will get booted by the voters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7,</p>
<p>I think it is reasonable to ask why folks want a CCW.  Hacks like Probolsky don&#8217;t have a good reason to be packing heat.  I think most folks would agree with that.</p>
<p>What got Hutchens in trouble was that she went after ALL the folks who had CCWs. That was too much.  Many of them no doubt have good reasons to carry weapons.  </p>
<p>In the meantime she is ignoring the problems in our county jail and she is not getting much accomplished.  So I think this will all resolve itself and she will get booted by the voters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robspierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Probolsky and any other law abiding citizen should have the right to carry a weapon so long as he/she gets a permit and is willing to stay up to date on training etc. I couldnt agree more with the Winships. What the hell has Probolsky done wrong to have his valid permit revoked?

We all know that Corona is a jackass but law abiding citizens can only apply to the sheriff they have at the time. Leave citizens alone madam Sheriff!

Art, reset that Libertarian compass that I enjoy so much and rethink this one. Its a freedom issue, not about Probolsky or any other individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Probolsky and any other law abiding citizen should have the right to carry a weapon so long as he/she gets a permit and is willing to stay up to date on training etc. I couldnt agree more with the Winships. What the hell has Probolsky done wrong to have his valid permit revoked?</p>
<p>We all know that Corona is a jackass but law abiding citizens can only apply to the sheriff they have at the time. Leave citizens alone madam Sheriff!</p>
<p>Art, reset that Libertarian compass that I enjoy so much and rethink this one. Its a freedom issue, not about Probolsky or any other individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron &#38; Anna Winship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron &#38; Anna Winship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*&quot;Electeds, Politicos, Jewelry Store Owners,
 Farmers or even Housekeepers that
 have to go to work at 3 in the morning.....
 The need for a CCW is only at question when you
 apply for one.  From that point on....unless you 
 screw up blatantly.....you should be able to
 keep it.  So, what did Adam do to &quot;screw the
 pooch&quot; again?  What?  Did he refuse to pay his
 renewal fee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*&#8221;Electeds, Politicos, Jewelry Store Owners,<br />
 Farmers or even Housekeepers that<br />
 have to go to work at 3 in the morning&#8230;..<br />
 The need for a CCW is only at question when you<br />
 apply for one.  From that point on&#8230;.unless you<br />
 screw up blatantly&#8230;..you should be able to<br />
 keep it.  So, what did Adam do to &#8220;screw the<br />
 pooch&#8221; again?  What?  Did he refuse to pay his<br />
 renewal fee?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like Sheriff Hutchens, and unless a extremely awesome Dem steps up, I plan on getting campaigning in Anaheim for her. But I don&#039;t like her revocation of ccw&#039;s. I understand what she&#039;s doing politically, and perhaps she has to do it to get out from under corona&#039;s cloud. But I think politicos deserve permits, especially ones that draw the ire of opposing parties if they have a reasonable belief that their safety is in danger. A threat of violence, or a death threat should do it. Politicians should get them. If someone has a reasonable belief that they can be a target of violence, they should get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like Sheriff Hutchens, and unless a extremely awesome Dem steps up, I plan on getting campaigning in Anaheim for her. But I don&#8217;t like her revocation of ccw&#8217;s. I understand what she&#8217;s doing politically, and perhaps she has to do it to get out from under corona&#8217;s cloud. But I think politicos deserve permits, especially ones that draw the ire of opposing parties if they have a reasonable belief that their safety is in danger. A threat of violence, or a death threat should do it. Politicians should get them. If someone has a reasonable belief that they can be a target of violence, they should get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

If everyone in Santa Ana was carrying guns, I can only imagine how many shootings we would have - on top of all the shootings we already have.

I think a lot of folks have a good reason to apply for a concealed weapon permit, but we should not hand those out like candy.  Serious thought should go into this process.

Are we really serving public safety by putting concealed weapons on GOP hacks like Fleischman and Probolsky, not to mention Schroeder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>If everyone in Santa Ana was carrying guns, I can only imagine how many shootings we would have &#8211; on top of all the shootings we already have.</p>
<p>I think a lot of folks have a good reason to apply for a concealed weapon permit, but we should not hand those out like candy.  Serious thought should go into this process.</p>
<p>Are we really serving public safety by putting concealed weapons on GOP hacks like Fleischman and Probolsky, not to mention Schroeder?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a liberal Dem, and this is one of my biggest problems with my party. I think the 2nd Amendment is pretty clear on the matter. If I weren&#039;t already going to be allowed to carry a concealed weapon because I&#039;m about to  be a law enforcement officer, I would throw a shitfit for a permit. This world is dangerous enough as it is without having the ability to protect yourself, and the people you love. Art you have kids and you live in Santa Ana, you like to highlight the crime your city&#039;s afflicted with, I&#039;d be surprised if you didn&#039;t have a firearm or baseball bat available at a moments notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a liberal Dem, and this is one of my biggest problems with my party. I think the 2nd Amendment is pretty clear on the matter. If I weren&#8217;t already going to be allowed to carry a concealed weapon because I&#8217;m about to  be a law enforcement officer, I would throw a shitfit for a permit. This world is dangerous enough as it is without having the ability to protect yourself, and the people you love. Art you have kids and you live in Santa Ana, you like to highlight the crime your city&#8217;s afflicted with, I&#8217;d be surprised if you didn&#8217;t have a firearm or baseball bat available at a moments notice.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let m gt thihs trigh..Mike Schroeder gets his CC taken away. But Probalski can just ignore the letters and sufer no consequences? Also, has anyone ever utteed the phrase Conflict of Interst&quot; in any of Probalskis activities in any of these commssions hes on? Doesnt he make money from having the same people that he holds sway over on these commssions as his clients? 

One last point, when the hell did the OCSD drop the fitness equiremnts for deputies to allow this land whale to serve as a deputy. Reserve or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let m gt thihs trigh..Mike Schroeder gets his CC taken away. But Probalski can just ignore the letters and sufer no consequences? Also, has anyone ever utteed the phrase Conflict of Interst&#8221; in any of Probalskis activities in any of these commssions hes on? Doesnt he make money from having the same people that he holds sway over on these commssions as his clients? </p>
<p>One last point, when the hell did the OCSD drop the fitness equiremnts for deputies to allow this land whale to serve as a deputy. Reserve or not.</p>
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