Comments on: The City of Santa Ana spent millions on the Artists Village, 10 years later – was it worth it?

By: miguel vargas

miguel vargas — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:47:53 +0000

well said curious. i just don’t like these pinche gringos.

By: miguel vargas

miguel vargas — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:46:14 +0000

pinche grinogos. callate johnny h pendejo.

By: anon

anon — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:29:19 +0000

Dr. Lomelli,

“I am smart enough to take ” yet there was not a peep” as an opinion. ”

You call that smart? I call it gullible. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

“I presented to you that other artist venues are far from the AV but are associated with the AV.”

Yeah, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that too.

By: art lomeli

art lomeli — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:55:09 +0000

Anon 20,

I am smart enough to take ” yet there was not a peep” as an opinion. Those smarter or less smart can perceive it differently. I am only giving you my opinion.

You atated that the protested art was not associated with the Artist Village because it was far from the AV.

I presented to you that other artist venues are far from the AV but are associated with the AV.

So arguing simply of a disconnection due to distance is not a good argument.

By: anon

anon — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:30:28 +0000

Oh, and I can attest to Gustavo’s observation about Fourth Street; I worked downtown around 1990 and it was dead as a doornail down there. The Artist’s Village AND the Fourth Street retail corridor have played important parts in helping downtown bounce back.

By: anon

anon — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:05:47 +0000

Dr Lomelli,

“Art pedroza stated his opinion. He never presented it saying it was a documented fact.”

Wrong. Art said “Yet there was not a peep…”. Please explain to me where that statement is not made as if it is fact. This is why I suggested he amend the statement to “As far as I know, there was not a peep…” You’re smart enough to see the difference.

And I’m sorry, but the venues you mention previously are not part of the Artists Village. The only possible relationship you can draw is that they are arts-related. If someone asks you “can you tell me how to get to the Artists Village”? are you going to send them to The Cribb Theater? I’m sorry, but the Artists Village is a very specific destination…not a loose affiliation of “arts” venues.

Gustavo,

Uhh, OK. You talked to some people.

By: Gustavo Arellano

Gustavo Arellano — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0000

Anon: Yes, really.
Johnny: Those illegals were the ones who actually saved Fourth Street back when the Artists Village was just a spark in Cribb’s imagination. You can look it up.
California Will: Please. Art shows can be put up at the drop of a hat. And so funny that Don Papi Pulido and Solorio cared about permits with VALAA, when Thomas Gordon (back when he posted here) showed again and again how Mike Harrah did as he pleased, damn the permit process.

By: art lomeli

art lomeli — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:10:51 +0000

Anon #12,

Art pedroza stated his opinion. He never presented it saying it was a documented fact. You flew off attacking his opinion.

A banner mentioning a venue has the purpose of suggesting to readers to visit the venue – the Artist Village with it’s many astistic venues not specific galleries or venues. If not why place a manner for the public to notice.

There is advertisement for the Main place without specifcally saying shop at any one store within the Mall – same with the banners that you find laughable.

You seem like a very angry person, chill out.

By: Gabriel San Roman

Gabriel San Roman — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:13:41 +0000

Art and Gustavo are on point here. Johnny H is on point too, only insofar as his rationale is the unofficial, unspoken one which is why AV after 10 years has largely failed the city.

Curious is also right. There is tremendous homegrown talent that gets ignored and pushed out of the city. It’s no wonder why a lot of people feel they have to bail out to Los Angeles…

By: California Will

California Will — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:49:11 +0000

Hmm, seems to me to be an “issue”. In Gustavo’s blog posting about FOB II, he specifically states that the building it was housed in was NOT zoned to exhibit art. That’s the final legal position the mayor based the closure on. Anything else is purely emotional. Expecting other galleries to host the exhibit eschews that other galleries have time and space (usually) already scheduled for months in advance (it takes time to set up exhibits). That would mean that other artists would have to be shifted from THEIR schedules to accommodate FOB II. Oddly there are always other considerations to public events that preclude a “gut reaction protest” to unfairness.

By: curious

curious — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:33:45 +0000

Johnny H,

You are so right!! It’s not that hard of an answer at all!!!

If you qualify as one of the “struggling artists that actually have potential and want the area to be nicer”, I’ll take the “illegal and poor mexicans” all day long. At least they are not self-righteous, self-absorbed racists!

And guess what…there are some amazing struggling artists who are actually Mexican!!! and believe it or not…they would like to see things improve also. That’s probably hard to comprehend in your small inbred mind however.

Go back to your patrol post along the border with the Minutemen…We don’t need your type in the SA.

By: Johnny H

Johnny H — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:22:18 +0000

So what’s better…a downtown full of illegal and poor mexicans or struggling artists that actually have potential and want the area to be nicer…It’s not that hard of an answer.