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	<title>Comments on: Court rejects OCEA&#8217;s attempt to halt layoffs, but union will keep fighting</title>
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		<title>By: carolinajacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinajacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that the crisis is this bad is simple.  Tom Mauk failed to do his job, and now he wants to lay off the people who did theirs.  It really is that simple.

Mauk&#039;s job was to take the past experience of the bankruptcy, and apply it proactively to the county, preparing for a worst case scenario.  This state meltdown isn&#039;t some surprise, people!  We knew this was coming back when Gray Davis was recalled and we got &quot;Arnold the Incompetent&quot; at the helm.  While others were preparing, Tommy Mauk and the Board were rearranging new luxury deck chairs on the Titanic, sipping champagne and spending, spending, spending.

Mauk&#039;s arrogance is despicable.  Mauk must go, and any BoS member who supports him must be recalled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that the crisis is this bad is simple.  Tom Mauk failed to do his job, and now he wants to lay off the people who did theirs.  It really is that simple.</p>
<p>Mauk&#8217;s job was to take the past experience of the bankruptcy, and apply it proactively to the county, preparing for a worst case scenario.  This state meltdown isn&#8217;t some surprise, people!  We knew this was coming back when Gray Davis was recalled and we got &#8220;Arnold the Incompetent&#8221; at the helm.  While others were preparing, Tommy Mauk and the Board were rearranging new luxury deck chairs on the Titanic, sipping champagne and spending, spending, spending.</p>
<p>Mauk&#8217;s arrogance is despicable.  Mauk must go, and any BoS member who supports him must be recalled.</p>
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		<title>By: Casual observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 7 - very interesting.  Mr. Parrish went on to become Riverside County CEO and was apaprently highly regarded out there - he retired in the last year or so.  As to inept folks getting elected, few who run with significant $$ and political backing are the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.  At least that is my observation.  There is now a next generation Nestande elected to the Assembly from Riverside County - stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. 7 &#8211; very interesting.  Mr. Parrish went on to become Riverside County CEO and was apaprently highly regarded out there &#8211; he retired in the last year or so.  As to inept folks getting elected, few who run with significant $$ and political backing are the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.  At least that is my observation.  There is now a next generation Nestande elected to the Assembly from Riverside County &#8211; stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Keoniana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keoniana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for the County from 3/78 to 1/89.  There were &#039;rumblings&#039; of the County bankruptcy long before it ever happened.  I remember countless meetings happening in former CEO&#039;s Larry Parrish office regarding possible &#039;improprieties&#039; happening in Citron&#039;s office.

I see that the department administrators are still not performing their respective jobs and having all the department &#039;supervisors&#039; do it for them.  It&#039;s disgusting to see that not much has changed over the years.  When is all of these &#039;smart voters&#039; going to stop re-electing all of these inept people to these offices?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for the County from 3/78 to 1/89.  There were &#8216;rumblings&#8217; of the County bankruptcy long before it ever happened.  I remember countless meetings happening in former CEO&#8217;s Larry Parrish office regarding possible &#8216;improprieties&#8217; happening in Citron&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>I see that the department administrators are still not performing their respective jobs and having all the department &#8216;supervisors&#8217; do it for them.  It&#8217;s disgusting to see that not much has changed over the years.  When is all of these &#8216;smart voters&#8217; going to stop re-electing all of these inept people to these offices?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an email alert sent out today by John Palacio, board member of SAUSD:


&lt;i&gt; Friday, January 9, 2009
Sacramento stalemate could cut off funding soon
With the state running low on cash and facing a colossal deficit, the governor and lawmakers can&#039;t agree on a fix.
By BRIAN JOSEPH
The Orange County Register


SACRAMENTO - The only thing moving at the State Capitol these days is the giant digital counter outside the governor&#039;s office, tallying our way to ruin.




Every second, the counter adds $470 to the state&#039;s growing deficit. The numbers spin frantically, manically, while the governor and a balkanized Legislature argue and pontificate but can&#039;t agree on a solution. 





The deficit will top $41 billion by July 2010, but the state will run out of cash sometime in February or March. California needs to fix its budget now or the wheels of government will begin grinding to a halt and the state will have to start handing out IOUs.




Already, the state has stopped $3.8 billion in financing for public works projects and there&#039;s talk that tax refunds could be delayed this year. 





The consequences of the cash crunch aren&#039;t certain—this is uncharted territory--but elected officials and their staffs are expected to have their paychecks cut off as soon as February and college students could be cut off from grants from the Student Aid Commission. And that&#039;s just where the problems start.




&quot;This is the most challenging fiscal crisis California has ever faced,&quot; finance director Mike Genest says. But elected leaders in Sacramento can&#039;t agree on what to do and negotiations have faltered as all sides have drawn lines in the sand

.

No compromise




Republicans, led by Assembly Minority Leader Mike Villines of Clovis and Senate Minority Leader Dave Cogdill of Modesto, have refused to support new taxes. The faltering economy has dramatically reduced state tax revenues, but Republicans have said spending cuts and redirected funds can cover the shortfall. The state needs to live within its means, they say.

Democrats, led by Assembly Speaker Karen Bass of Los Angeles and Senate Leader Darrell Steinberg of Sacramento, refuse to accept a cuts-only solution. The poor and the elderly would be hurt, they say. But state law says that two-thirds of the Legislature must approve a tax increase and the GOP control a little more than a third of it. A majority of the Legislature can only raise fees.




Several proposals mixing cuts and tax increases floundered about until Democrats dusted off a legal opinion that says a majority of the Legislature may raise and lower taxes so long as the net impact is zero. Using that questionable theory, the Democrats raised some taxes, lowered some others and enacted new fees. They sent the governor a budget solution without a single Republican vote.




But Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger didn&#039;t like the plan. He criticized the tax increases as hurting Californians and said the package didn&#039;t do enough to stimulate the economy. Schwarzenegger said he wasn&#039;t concerned about cutting his fellow Republicans out of the process, but he demanded that Democrats give him deeper cuts plus environmental and labor reforms to make new construction easier.




Democrats refused to give him exactly what he wanted. So he vetoed it.




Pressure on all sides




&quot;We could not reach a deal because Democrats could not stand up to special interests&quot; on the reforms he wanted, the governor said this week. 





But Democrats countered that the Republican governor likewise was pressured to reject the plan because it cut Republican lawmakers out of the process. 





And on the sidelines are the Republicans, who know that they&#039;ll be blacklisted from their own party if they ever support a tax increase. 





Whichever side you take, it&#039;s been more than two months since state leaders realized the budget was bleeding red ink and they have next to nothing to show for it. 





The governor used this void to push for the Legislature to consider his newest budget proposal, which his administration released on Dec. 31. But his new plan includes an unpopular proposal to cut the school year by a week and as well as a proposal to reduce tax credits for dependent children. It&#039;s already drawn the same criticism leveled at previous plans. 





Negotiations began anew Thursday, but the lawmakers had little to say. &quot;It was a very good, cordial conversation,&quot; Steinberg said.




Meanwhile, Republicans are pushing for immediate action on areas of consensus, such as spending cuts, but they&#039;ve been pushing for that for some time and it&#039;s gone nowhere. The governor wants a comprehensive plan, saying if you cut services and raise taxes you must also offer a good economic stimulus package.




As a stop gap, the governor has ordered the state Department of Personnel to adopt a plan to furlough state employees for two days a month without pay and to begin layoffs of state workers. State employees, however, are trying to block the order.




&#039;The worst&#039; ever




&quot;I&#039;ve never seen it this bad,&quot; said State Sen. Lou Correa, D-Santa Ana, who was first elected to the Legislature in 1998, the earliest in the Orange County delegation. &quot;Is this the worst? Yeah, this is the worst.&quot;




There&#039;s a sense on the Capitol that this budget calamity is historic not only for its numbers, but for the intractability of the factions. After years of piecemeal compromising on the budget, the only thing left is major reform – cutting the size government, changing the tax structure. Politically, major reform hurts.




&quot;My perspective is that the Legislature, for far too many years, we&#039;ve used band aids, short-term solutions to get us through every budget year that we&#039;ve had, probably for the last six to eight years. And because of that, the crisis we always keep talking about has never really materialized as has been predicted,&quot; Correa said.




&quot;Today, we&#039;ve reached the point where, again, we&#039;re talking about a crisis and you hope that this point we do take this clear and present danger to put together some real reforms and real solutions.&quot;




Like everyone else, he&#039;s waiting to see if they do.




Contact the writer: 916-449-6046 or bjoseph@ocregister.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an email alert sent out today by John Palacio, board member of SAUSD:</p>
<p><i> Friday, January 9, 2009<br />
Sacramento stalemate could cut off funding soon<br />
With the state running low on cash and facing a colossal deficit, the governor and lawmakers can&#8217;t agree on a fix.<br />
By BRIAN JOSEPH<br />
The Orange County Register</p>
<p>SACRAMENTO &#8211; The only thing moving at the State Capitol these days is the giant digital counter outside the governor&#8217;s office, tallying our way to ruin.</p>
<p>Every second, the counter adds $470 to the state&#8217;s growing deficit. The numbers spin frantically, manically, while the governor and a balkanized Legislature argue and pontificate but can&#8217;t agree on a solution. </p>
<p>The deficit will top $41 billion by July 2010, but the state will run out of cash sometime in February or March. California needs to fix its budget now or the wheels of government will begin grinding to a halt and the state will have to start handing out IOUs.</p>
<p>Already, the state has stopped $3.8 billion in financing for public works projects and there&#8217;s talk that tax refunds could be delayed this year. </p>
<p>The consequences of the cash crunch aren&#8217;t certain—this is uncharted territory&#8211;but elected officials and their staffs are expected to have their paychecks cut off as soon as February and college students could be cut off from grants from the Student Aid Commission. And that&#8217;s just where the problems start.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the most challenging fiscal crisis California has ever faced,&#8221; finance director Mike Genest says. But elected leaders in Sacramento can&#8217;t agree on what to do and negotiations have faltered as all sides have drawn lines in the sand</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>No compromise</p>
<p>Republicans, led by Assembly Minority Leader Mike Villines of Clovis and Senate Minority Leader Dave Cogdill of Modesto, have refused to support new taxes. The faltering economy has dramatically reduced state tax revenues, but Republicans have said spending cuts and redirected funds can cover the shortfall. The state needs to live within its means, they say.</p>
<p>Democrats, led by Assembly Speaker Karen Bass of Los Angeles and Senate Leader Darrell Steinberg of Sacramento, refuse to accept a cuts-only solution. The poor and the elderly would be hurt, they say. But state law says that two-thirds of the Legislature must approve a tax increase and the GOP control a little more than a third of it. A majority of the Legislature can only raise fees.</p>
<p>Several proposals mixing cuts and tax increases floundered about until Democrats dusted off a legal opinion that says a majority of the Legislature may raise and lower taxes so long as the net impact is zero. Using that questionable theory, the Democrats raised some taxes, lowered some others and enacted new fees. They sent the governor a budget solution without a single Republican vote.</p>
<p>But Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger didn&#8217;t like the plan. He criticized the tax increases as hurting Californians and said the package didn&#8217;t do enough to stimulate the economy. Schwarzenegger said he wasn&#8217;t concerned about cutting his fellow Republicans out of the process, but he demanded that Democrats give him deeper cuts plus environmental and labor reforms to make new construction easier.</p>
<p>Democrats refused to give him exactly what he wanted. So he vetoed it.</p>
<p>Pressure on all sides</p>
<p>&#8220;We could not reach a deal because Democrats could not stand up to special interests&#8221; on the reforms he wanted, the governor said this week. </p>
<p>But Democrats countered that the Republican governor likewise was pressured to reject the plan because it cut Republican lawmakers out of the process. </p>
<p>And on the sidelines are the Republicans, who know that they&#8217;ll be blacklisted from their own party if they ever support a tax increase. </p>
<p>Whichever side you take, it&#8217;s been more than two months since state leaders realized the budget was bleeding red ink and they have next to nothing to show for it. </p>
<p>The governor used this void to push for the Legislature to consider his newest budget proposal, which his administration released on Dec. 31. But his new plan includes an unpopular proposal to cut the school year by a week and as well as a proposal to reduce tax credits for dependent children. It&#8217;s already drawn the same criticism leveled at previous plans. </p>
<p>Negotiations began anew Thursday, but the lawmakers had little to say. &#8220;It was a very good, cordial conversation,&#8221; Steinberg said.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Republicans are pushing for immediate action on areas of consensus, such as spending cuts, but they&#8217;ve been pushing for that for some time and it&#8217;s gone nowhere. The governor wants a comprehensive plan, saying if you cut services and raise taxes you must also offer a good economic stimulus package.</p>
<p>As a stop gap, the governor has ordered the state Department of Personnel to adopt a plan to furlough state employees for two days a month without pay and to begin layoffs of state workers. State employees, however, are trying to block the order.</p>
<p>&#8216;The worst&#8217; ever</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve never seen it this bad,&#8221; said State Sen. Lou Correa, D-Santa Ana, who was first elected to the Legislature in 1998, the earliest in the Orange County delegation. &#8220;Is this the worst? Yeah, this is the worst.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a sense on the Capitol that this budget calamity is historic not only for its numbers, but for the intractability of the factions. After years of piecemeal compromising on the budget, the only thing left is major reform – cutting the size government, changing the tax structure. Politically, major reform hurts.</p>
<p>&#8220;My perspective is that the Legislature, for far too many years, we&#8217;ve used band aids, short-term solutions to get us through every budget year that we&#8217;ve had, probably for the last six to eight years. And because of that, the crisis we always keep talking about has never really materialized as has been predicted,&#8221; Correa said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Today, we&#8217;ve reached the point where, again, we&#8217;re talking about a crisis and you hope that this point we do take this clear and present danger to put together some real reforms and real solutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like everyone else, he&#8217;s waiting to see if they do.</p>
<p>Contact the writer: 916-449-6046 or <a href="mailto:bjoseph@ocregister.com">bjoseph@ocregister.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Casual observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state gives the counties pots of money (called categorical funding) to operate state mandated human service and health programs, and to some extent also Probation programs. The county staffs up to what they think that pot will be.  If it turns out the pot actually arrives with less state money than the budget assumes, the county must either cut back expenses, pump in county dollars to make up the shortfall, or a combination of both.  The Orange County Board of supervisors has traditionally balked at putting county dollars into these state mandated programs on those occasions where the state funding proves inadequate. So, two questions seem to exist: (1) Does the county have the money to put into these programs to avoid the layoffs? and (2) if so, should the county subsidize these state programs in that manner and why?  Question 1 is a financial question, question 2 is a policy question.  Not rocket science but rather sticky public policy questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state gives the counties pots of money (called categorical funding) to operate state mandated human service and health programs, and to some extent also Probation programs. The county staffs up to what they think that pot will be.  If it turns out the pot actually arrives with less state money than the budget assumes, the county must either cut back expenses, pump in county dollars to make up the shortfall, or a combination of both.  The Orange County Board of supervisors has traditionally balked at putting county dollars into these state mandated programs on those occasions where the state funding proves inadequate. So, two questions seem to exist: (1) Does the county have the money to put into these programs to avoid the layoffs? and (2) if so, should the county subsidize these state programs in that manner and why?  Question 1 is a financial question, question 2 is a policy question.  Not rocket science but rather sticky public policy questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonyms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonyms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons I love this blog so much is that it is accessible to the &quot;real&quot; employees. I speak for most of us here when I say please, please tell us what&#039;s going on. Tell us when the emperor has no clothes and doesn&#039;t even show up for work. Tell us anonymously. Tell us rumors and suspicions, tell us the funny stuff you joke about in the lunchroom. Tell us when you need some support. Use this tool and it will become more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I love this blog so much is that it is accessible to the &#8220;real&#8221; employees. I speak for most of us here when I say please, please tell us what&#8217;s going on. Tell us when the emperor has no clothes and doesn&#8217;t even show up for work. Tell us anonymously. Tell us rumors and suspicions, tell us the funny stuff you joke about in the lunchroom. Tell us when you need some support. Use this tool and it will become more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: been there</title>
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		<dc:creator>been there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Tom Daly, past posts on this blog have speculated that he will run for the Board of Supervisors when Supervisor Norby is termed-out.  If true, be careful what you ask for.  It is noteworthy that response No. 1 mentions a new office in Fullerton because that area is in Norby&#039;s Supervisor District and this would seem to elevate Daly&#039;s visibility (at least his photo on the wall)in that District.  Connect the dots ----</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Tom Daly, past posts on this blog have speculated that he will run for the Board of Supervisors when Supervisor Norby is termed-out.  If true, be careful what you ask for.  It is noteworthy that response No. 1 mentions a new office in Fullerton because that area is in Norby&#8217;s Supervisor District and this would seem to elevate Daly&#8217;s visibility (at least his photo on the wall)in that District.  Connect the dots &#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: anonfive</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonfive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frustrating that no one ever listens to the &quot;real&quot; employees, those that show up everyday and know exactly what&#039;s going on. Why does management in most public agencies seem to be so out of touch?  Does anyone know where Tom Daly is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frustrating that no one ever listens to the &#8220;real&#8221; employees, those that show up everyday and know exactly what&#8217;s going on. Why does management in most public agencies seem to be so out of touch?  Does anyone know where Tom Daly is?</p>
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		<title>By: concern staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>concern staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at the Clerk-Recorder office and we are openning a satelite office in Fullerton which will cost the County thousands of dollars for the remodel and we also purchase a building for archives that cost over a Million dollars.  Why dont we stop these project so we can save some money and jobs.  We have an elected official Tom Daly that never comes to work and never talks to any of us at work.  He should donate his salary and car allowance back.  We all hope he leaves office and run for election somewhere else so we can have a real boss. I have been working here for over 8 years and he is the worst.  He lets his stupid manager Renee Ramirez run the show.  She is the worst manager in the county. They are both a waste of tax payers money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at the Clerk-Recorder office and we are openning a satelite office in Fullerton which will cost the County thousands of dollars for the remodel and we also purchase a building for archives that cost over a Million dollars.  Why dont we stop these project so we can save some money and jobs.  We have an elected official Tom Daly that never comes to work and never talks to any of us at work.  He should donate his salary and car allowance back.  We all hope he leaves office and run for election somewhere else so we can have a real boss. I have been working here for over 8 years and he is the worst.  He lets his stupid manager Renee Ramirez run the show.  She is the worst manager in the county. They are both a waste of tax payers money.</p>
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