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	<title>Comments on: Supervisor Nguyen collected over $12,000 this year from restaurants &amp; food companies, including major violators</title>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; It is not unreasonable to surmise...&lt;/i&gt;

To &quot;surmise&quot; is to &quot;to think or infer without certain or strong evidence; conjecture; guess.&quot;

You had been adamant that Janet &quot;clearly&quot; had a conflict of interest. Now you&#039;re admitting it&#039;s just conjecture on your part.

&lt;i&gt;And yes Matt, now that Trung has lost again and Janet is in power for four years you are most definitely shilling for her.&lt;/i&gt;

You really are a &lt;i&gt;lunático&lt;/i&gt;. Like I said before, &quot;shilling&quot; in your fantasy world simply means disagreeing with your assessment of a politician. I can&#039;t help if you are pushing a very weak case held together with wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> It is not unreasonable to surmise&#8230;</i></p>
<p>To &#8220;surmise&#8221; is to &#8220;to think or infer without certain or strong evidence; conjecture; guess.&#8221;</p>
<p>You had been adamant that Janet &#8220;clearly&#8221; had a conflict of interest. Now you&#8217;re admitting it&#8217;s just conjecture on your part.</p>
<p><i>And yes Matt, now that Trung has lost again and Janet is in power for four years you are most definitely shilling for her.</i></p>
<p>You really are a <i>lunático</i>. Like I said before, &#8220;shilling&#8221; in your fantasy world simply means disagreeing with your assessment of a politician. I can&#8217;t help if you are pushing a very weak case held together with wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt/Jubal,

It is not unreasonable to surmise that Nguyen voted against the restaurant ratings in order to prevent her husband&#039;s restaurant and those belonging to many of her contributors from ending up with &quot;B&quot; or &quot;C&quot; ratings.  In so doing Nguyen failed to look after the public good.  Instead she engaged in the same kind of cronyism that Van Tran has been up to for years.

And yes Matt, now that Trung has lost again and Janet is in power for four years you are most definitely shilling for her.  Why can&#039;t you just admit that?  You are one of the few people trying to explain her actions - and cover for them.  That speaks for itself.

We are stuck with Janet for four years but rest assured that I will be keeping a close eye on her every vote.  I have a feeling this won&#039;t be the last time she acts against the public good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt/Jubal,</p>
<p>It is not unreasonable to surmise that Nguyen voted against the restaurant ratings in order to prevent her husband&#8217;s restaurant and those belonging to many of her contributors from ending up with &#8220;B&#8221; or &#8220;C&#8221; ratings.  In so doing Nguyen failed to look after the public good.  Instead she engaged in the same kind of cronyism that Van Tran has been up to for years.</p>
<p>And yes Matt, now that Trung has lost again and Janet is in power for four years you are most definitely shilling for her.  Why can&#8217;t you just admit that?  You are one of the few people trying to explain her actions &#8211; and cover for them.  That speaks for itself.</p>
<p>We are stuck with Janet for four years but rest assured that I will be keeping a close eye on her every vote.  I have a feeling this won&#8217;t be the last time she acts against the public good.</p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Now it is very clear, despite Jubal’s shilling and spinning...&lt;/i&gt;

Too much! At least OJ as good to laugh at.

Not too long ago, Art would get angry and accuse me of picking on Janet. Now I am &quot;shilling and spinning&quot; for her! I decline the honor. Besides, no one could ever match Art&#039;s Oscar-winning performance in Janet-shilling.

Even so, I&#039;m not surprised to read Art reaching for that worn out lawn dart. It&#039;s indicative of a weak argument.

In Art&#039;s mind, anyone who disagrees with him about a politician cannot be anything other than a shill for that politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now it is very clear, despite Jubal’s shilling and spinning&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Too much! At least OJ as good to laugh at.</p>
<p>Not too long ago, Art would get angry and accuse me of picking on Janet. Now I am &#8220;shilling and spinning&#8221; for her! I decline the honor. Besides, no one could ever match Art&#8217;s Oscar-winning performance in Janet-shilling.</p>
<p>Even so, I&#8217;m not surprised to read Art reaching for that worn out lawn dart. It&#8217;s indicative of a weak argument.</p>
<p>In Art&#8217;s mind, anyone who disagrees with him about a politician cannot be anything other than a shill for that politician.</p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My answer to this comment is “so what”.

Regardless of why Art is doing this what he is reporting is the truth, is it not?&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s certainly a convenient standard. Art routinely impugns other people&#039;s motives. 

But now, Art&#039;s motives are suddenly irrelevant.

As for truth, what Art has done is presents a collection of facts -- donation amounts.

Fact and truth are different things. A person can write something factual without being truthful, this post being a good example of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My answer to this comment is “so what”.</p>
<p>Regardless of why Art is doing this what he is reporting is the truth, is it not?</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s certainly a convenient standard. Art routinely impugns other people&#8217;s motives. </p>
<p>But now, Art&#8217;s motives are suddenly irrelevant.</p>
<p>As for truth, what Art has done is presents a collection of facts &#8212; donation amounts.</p>
<p>Fact and truth are different things. A person can write something factual without being truthful, this post being a good example of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonyms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonyms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see Solario&#039;s restaurant donor list. He always has the BEST food donated for his phone banks. Gracias, gracias, gracias, I give you all A++.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see Solario&#8217;s restaurant donor list. He always has the BEST food donated for his phone banks. Gracias, gracias, gracias, I give you all A++.</p>
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		<title>By: Never Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had she recused herself in this, I suspect it would have been one post with few comments.  Any controversy would have passed quickly.  Her minions should have caught this and advised her to stay away from it as it appears not to have been a close vote.

Even with the Register is a death spiral, they do post restaurant warnings weekly.  It&#039;s always a contest at our house to call off those we know and have eaten at (and probably won&#039;t ever again which speak to why there is some importance to all this).

I&#039;d be curious as far as trends.  Are more of these places, over time, in the 1st District than others?  Seems the Register&#039;s list don&#039;t often tag them in Irvine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had she recused herself in this, I suspect it would have been one post with few comments.  Any controversy would have passed quickly.  Her minions should have caught this and advised her to stay away from it as it appears not to have been a close vote.</p>
<p>Even with the Register is a death spiral, they do post restaurant warnings weekly.  It&#8217;s always a contest at our house to call off those we know and have eaten at (and probably won&#8217;t ever again which speak to why there is some importance to all this).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious as far as trends.  Are more of these places, over time, in the 1st District than others?  Seems the Register&#8217;s list don&#8217;t often tag them in Irvine.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/12/supervisor-nguyen-collected-over-12000-this-year-from-restaurants-food-companies-including-major-violators/comment-page-1/#comment-77028</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never Again,

Yes - we all got screwed when Janet voted against the proposed restaurant rating system.  Now it is very clear, despite Jubal&#039;s shilling and spinning, that Janet voted in that manner to protect all of her donors who run shoddy, unsafe and unsanitary restaurants.  How many of them would be rated &quot;C&quot; restaurants in Los Angeles?

And of course she was trying to cover for her husband and chief of staff, whose restaurant also has received numerous violations from the County Health department.

It appears that Janet is as corrupt as the Trannies who oppose her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never Again,</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; we all got screwed when Janet voted against the proposed restaurant rating system.  Now it is very clear, despite Jubal&#8217;s shilling and spinning, that Janet voted in that manner to protect all of her donors who run shoddy, unsafe and unsanitary restaurants.  How many of them would be rated &#8220;C&#8221; restaurants in Los Angeles?</p>
<p>And of course she was trying to cover for her husband and chief of staff, whose restaurant also has received numerous violations from the County Health department.</p>
<p>It appears that Janet is as corrupt as the Trannies who oppose her.</p>
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		<title>By: Flowerszzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flowerszzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art have at it and Welcome to the 21st century!  The county electeds have been online for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art have at it and Welcome to the 21st century!  The county electeds have been online for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Never Again</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/12/supervisor-nguyen-collected-over-12000-this-year-from-restaurants-food-companies-including-major-violators/comment-page-1/#comment-77025</link>
		<dc:creator>Never Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jubal&#039;s right...having contributed more to Janet than most of those restaurants in Pedroza&#039;s list, I&#039;ve gotten screwed pretty good by her and her staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jubal&#8217;s right&#8230;having contributed more to Janet than most of those restaurants in Pedroza&#8217;s list, I&#8217;ve gotten screwed pretty good by her and her staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/12/supervisor-nguyen-collected-over-12000-this-year-from-restaurants-food-companies-including-major-violators/comment-page-1/#comment-77015</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks it&#039;s time for a recall petition drive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks it&#8217;s time for a recall petition drive!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I understand you’re turning on Janet because you’re upset she didn’t endorse you for council.&quot;

Jubal,

My answer to this comment is &quot;so what&quot;.

Regardless of why Art is doing this what he is reporting is the truth, is it not?

While what Janet did may not have been illegal, it certainly raises questions about her integrity and lack of ethical standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I understand you’re turning on Janet because you’re upset she didn’t endorse you for council.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jubal,</p>
<p>My answer to this comment is &#8220;so what&#8221;.</p>
<p>Regardless of why Art is doing this what he is reporting is the truth, is it not?</p>
<p>While what Janet did may not have been illegal, it certainly raises questions about her integrity and lack of ethical standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/12/supervisor-nguyen-collected-over-12000-this-year-from-restaurants-food-companies-including-major-violators/comment-page-1/#comment-77013</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt/Flowerszzz,

How convenient!  Now I can look up Campbell&#039;s records and Norby&#039;s too and see how much money they took from restaurants with violations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt/Flowerszzz,</p>
<p>How convenient!  Now I can look up Campbell&#8217;s records and Norby&#8217;s too and see how much money they took from restaurants with violations&#8230;</p>
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