Obama will let Rick Warren give his inaugural

invocation. How ridiculous.

Hey Barack, you WON the election, remember?

And it wasn’t that close.

Warren is extremely involved in the AIDS crisis in Africa. Dobson is not. Dobson could care less about those with AIDS. Warren believes that Christians should care for the environment. Warren has placed a high priority in addressing world poverty. Dobson could care less about that. Dobson, and others, have resisted this “broadening” of the evangelical agenda.

You keep talking about the way Warren “packages” himself. That does nothing to explain away his positions and priorities with regard to other issues, and does nothing to reveal the entire person.

When you start questioning the entirety of a person’s sincerity and motivations, you start down the slippery slope of judgmentalism and self-righteousness. Not a good thing.

And you failed to refute the lack of logic in your position.

Please enlighten me as to how Rick Warren is any different from the Pat Robertson’s or James Dobson’s of the Christofacist world other than how he packages himself.

Pat Robertson is now involved in fighting against global warming. Should we remove him from the nut list?

Rick Warren has just done a better public relations job than the other nut jobs. He like Dobson was a supporter of Prop 8. He like Robertson has called for the illegal assasination of a foreign leader.

Show me the differences in these folks.

Robertson helps provide services to the poor. He sends food to poor in other nations. Does this remove him from the nut job list?

You keep insinuating that Warren is so much different from the others and yet you have failed to demonstrate how.

Your position isn’t even logical–that’s how silly it is. It’s actually quite Pedrozian. It goes something like this;

Politician A, a Democrat, voted for the “Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002″

Politician B, a Republican, voted for the “Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002″

Conclusion; Politicians A and B have the same agenda on every other issue.

Aww heck, let’s try it with real people.

Sen. Hillary Clinton voted for the resolution.
Sen. Rick Santorum voted for the resolution.

Conclusion; Clinton and Santorum have (or had) the same agenda, believe all the same things, want all the same things for the country. They’re practically the same person.

I mean c’mon, that’s the way right-wingers think. Everything is black and white. There’s no such thing as nuance and shades of grey.

And you just keep playing the role of an ostriche with your head stuck in the sand and keep thinking Warren and his agenda are any different from the Dobson’s and Robertson’s.

Well by all means, carry on with your tar-and-feather, guilt by association, “he’s this way on one issue so that makes him that way on all issues” approach to human relations. It really helps make the world a better place.

Rick Warren is much more clever and slick in the packaging of his fanaticism than are James Dobson and Pat Robertson, so for this we should just give him a pass?

He has just learned from their mistakes and has managed to lull folks into a false sense of security. His agenda is not much different from their’s, it’s just how he sells it.

You’re so “sophisticated” that he has you buying into his crap and believing that he is somehow different from the crackpots.

I certainly feel that Warren’s view ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE is wrong. But I’m not going to use a person’s position on one issue, negate the good things they’ve done, and lump them in with nuts like Dobson and start calling them names. I’ll leave that unsophisticated approach to Sean.

Well, Warren just set his “agenda” back a few steps, jumping on board the illegal assassination of an elected foreign leader just to get a pat on the head from slant-head Hannity. What’s with this retarded fixation on Ahmadinejad anyway? I thought by now everybody knew he is just a figurehead and Iran is run by the mullahs. A popularly elected figurehead whose popularity has been sinking with Bush’s. And these rightwing morons, now joined by supposed moderate Rick Warren, dream of making him a martyr?

Anon,

I agree that Dobson is nuts, however if Warren is out there advocating the assasination of foreign leaders he is a crazy nutball as well.

It is time that folks wake up and realize what these folks really are, Christofacists.

No, I don’t think it’s jealousy. It really comes down to disagreeing on “agenda”. Warren tends to want to broaden the agenda, and nuts like Dobson want to keep the agenda narrowly focused on divisive social issues.