Well, now we know who launched this week’s very lame attack mailers on me. Apparently Matt “Jubal” Cunningham, the Editor of Red County, coordinated the attacks. The “Legion of Doom” who contributed to the attacks included:
- Orange County Employees Association
- Dan Chmielewski
- Mike Schroeder
- Ware Disposal
- Francis Barraza
- Vietnamese American Leadership-VA
Nick Berardino, the head of the OCEA, is one of Matt’s political allies – ergo his contribution. Chmielewski has some kind of strange fixation with attacking me, which started after I invited Sarah Spinosa to join our blog – after he banned her from his blog. Mike Schroeder (who was disgraced former OC Sheriff Mike Carona’s adviser) and the Vietnamese American Leadership folks are affiliated with Assemblyman Van Tran – who has been a target of this blog for some time. Ware Disposal? They are hated in Santa Ana – and no one likes them here at the OJ either. It figures they would come after me. As for Francis Barraza, I am told she used to work for the OC GOP.
So there you go. Only one of Matt’s allies lives in Santa Ana. The rest of them joined in Matt’s silly attack as a favor to him, or because they had a bone to pick with me. Thanks for spending so much to advertise my blog!
What is this — like the fourth or fifth post in two days about a mailer that was supposedly so ineffective?
Art, I was able to raise more money in four days to hit you — despite the fact that it was difficult because no one takes your candidacy seriously — than you’ve been able to raise in four months to fund your “revolution.” That says something about you, and it ain’t good.
Jubal/Matt,
Here is a question for you to ponder. Why didn’t you use that money to promote George Collins, the Republican candidate for Mayor of Santa Ana who is endorsed by your party? You and your merry band of haters have done nothing to help Collins. Shameful!
Hey Art,
Why don’t you list how much each person gave.
Reduced to sputtering “haters!” are we? You and Vern must be comparing notes.
And you’re starting to refer to yourself in the third person, Art.
Not a good sign.
As for your question: you’re kidding, right? The answer is obvious: that’s not why the donors gave to the IE committee.
‘Hey Art, why don’t you list how much each person gave.‘
Because Matt conveniently didn’t e-file so that there’s no information available yet. Do the amounts really matter? The names tell me everything I need to know.
Welcome back to OJ: where you have about as much credibility as Paul Lucas. Remember, I’m not going to ban you from our blog because frankly, your games entertain me and nobody believes a word you say anyway.
SMS
Actually, it just seems as if Jubal/Matt Cunningham doesn’t care about getting Republicans elected in Santa Ana.
Poor guy… maybe he should start doing that instead of continuing some ridiculous pissing match with Pedroza.
But, on the other hand, perhaps Jubal/Matt Cunningham has other — more important — things to do than get Republicans elected. Oh, that’s right — him and his wife hate gays, so they’re more interested in oppressing the rights of others.
SMS:
For a savvy political consultant, you’re not very savvy.
You could always sashay on down to the city clerk and pick up the Form 496. Or ask the city clerk’s office to e-mail it to you. They’re very helpful that way.
‘You could always sashay on down to the city clerk and pick up the Form 496. Or ask the city clerk’s office to e-mail it to you. They’re very helpful that way.‘
I’m just pointing out that if you didn’t conveniently file by mail, the information would be available online by now. I know you spent more than $1,000, so if you decided to muddle the paperwork, I’ll find out soon won’t I? I’m just impatient when I get to go after someone as smug as you.
In case you haven’t noticed: fear is not one of my primary emotions. Don’t you have any other campaigns to run? Go try to psyche out someone else. I’ll never be scared of you and I’m not convinced that the reverse is true. It’s time you at least started treating me as an equal. You are NOT God’s gift to this business.
SMS
I know you spent more than $1,000, so if you decided to muddle the paperwork…
What you really mean is we didn’t make it super-convenient for you. We complied with the law. It’s not our job to make your task any easier.
A for the rest of your comment, SMS: I don’t care whether your scared of me or not. Keep up the drama queen routine. Whatever floats your boat.
SMS you can not file Late filings by mail they must be faxed within 24 hours…and I have been told that not only was the form faxed but also emailed to the City clerks office and has ben there since yesterday.
WOW I am able to comment again – and not get that George Carlin quote and am able to actually see the captcha word with out your ad covering it up….
BTW the City of Santa Ana has no e filing process that I can see so where exactly was the report to be e-filed anyway?
Flowerszzz –
Sorry about that. Our security catches innocents sometimes, especially if you’re on AOL(??).
You can e-file directly on the Secretary of State’s site, and I agree with Matt that you guys don’t have to make things convenient for me, fine. We’re just saying that everything better be up to snuff. There are a few shady characters on your contribution list and it makes the whole IE look suspicious. If we don’t find anything, you can say I told you so.
SMS
Sarah:
You already falsely accused our committee of filing the Form 496 by mail to deliberately slow things up.
Now you’re casting additional suspicions.
Have you ever heard of just waiting until you find out the facts?
You know, for people who’ve been officially laughing this mailer off, you and Art are devoting a lot of energy to it.
You dont, nor can you efile with the secretary of state for a city race Sarah.
E filing at that level is for State candidates and state political action committees. Seriously now, you need to read up on political campaign law if you are going to be a consultant. That’s the kind of BS you tout like Art would, and not to be too rude but like Art, you are talking out the side of your neck because that is consultant 101.
Matt –
It’s not about the mailer, it’s about your banning me just for wanting to have the conversation. Despite what you did, I’m still here treating you with respect so I don’t want to hear you whine about me being up in arms and jumping the gun a little. As I’ve said, if you’re legit, you have nothing to worry about, do you?
Flowerszzz –
You dont, nor can you efile with the secretary of state for a city race Sarah.
*sigh*
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1312912&view=electronic – if yours wasn’t a last minute IE it would have been here.
We’re going to argue semantics now? There are less than 5 days until election day and you guys form a last minute IE committee. You bet I’m going to be looking at that suspicious move.
Some consultant specialize in endorsements. Some, like me, specialize in strategy and technology. Many do know finance law but most campaigns have treasurers for that other stuff. That’s beancounter stuff and I find it boring.
Incidentally, I don’t advertise fund-raising or expenditure services though my business, so get off your high horses, both of you guys. Can we talk about the issues now or do you want to try to ban me from my blog for disagreeing too?
SMS
Yes swe pea when you form the committee it is posted on the Secretary of State’s website – all committees are there look up Pedroza hes’ there too. Why did he not efile there? LOL. All I am saying is know facts before you spout crap that is untrue. Its not a matter of harping on you for disagreeing – it is the fact that you are saying things that are not true. A local city committee is not required to efile anywhere…while some cities have efiling available for their committees, even then it is not required.
And BTW back at ya on the comment “*sigh* You know, for people who’ve been officially laughing this mailer off, you and Art are devoting a lot of energy to it.”
It’s not about the mailer, it’s about your banning me just for wanting to have the conversation
SMS:
Please be honest.
You know that’s not why you were banned. I gave you a warning like I do anyone else, and gave you the opportunity to correct the situation. You chose to compound the offense.
There are less than 5 days until election day and you guys form a last minute IE committee.
I didn’t realize there was such a thing as a “last minute IE committee.” Is there a specific form for that?
Is there some kind of deadline after which citizens are barred from forming an IE committee?
You bet I’m going to be looking at that suspicious move.
LOL! You’re even starting to sound like Art. Go right ahead.
Some consultant specialize in endorsements.
Wha…? Who?
Matt –
So my options were to cop to something I didn’t say or get banned. I have integrity, therefore, Itold you to go ahead and ban me if you wanted a war. I guess you did and it doesn’t look like it’s working out too well for you.
No, there’s no deadline but it was still a cheap move. Just like the way you’re trying to get Art and I to say things you can use against us, but that hasn’t happened.
‘Some consultant specialize in endorsements.
Wha…? Who?‘
Of the top of my head? How about Ken Christensen who worked for Jerry McNerny and Ed Chau? I hate the guy, but his specialties are fund-raising and endorsements.
I’m done for tonight. Go get some sleep and come back in the morning with a new ration of s**t.
SMS
Legion of Doom? Art, get a grip.
“Nick Berardino, the head of the OCEA, is one of Matt’s political allies – ergo his contribution.”
Art, for the proprietor of what you claim to be the #1 political blog in OC, you have a surprising lack of knowlege of Orange County politics. 1) Nick Berardino is the General Manager of the most politically active and influential union in Orange County. He is not it’s “head.” That job lies with the President of the Board of Directors. 2) Political allies is a bit strong of a term to describe the relationship between Matt and Nick. Matt opposes virtually everything that OCEA represents. 3) Nick does not determine the political contributions made by OCEA’s PACs. That responsibility falls to the Board of Directors.
Let me make one thing perfectly clear, OCEA has not endorsed, nor does it support or oppose the candidacy of Carlos Bustamante in Ward 3. OCEA contributed to an Independent Expenditure opposing your candidacy.
I support that decision because I believe you have demonstrated that you do not have any of the qualities that a suitable replacement requires.
I think this might be the first time I have ever agreed with Prevatt on anything!
Flowerszzz,
It is highly disturbing to see Chris Prevatt and his coblogger Dan in league with Mike Schroeder and Judy Ware.
As one of the recipients of this flyer (I am registered as DTS), all this flyer accomplished is confirming that I made the right choice on the ballot. If I hadn’t voted already, this flyer would make me seriously consider voting for Art…
This flyer is so obviously stupid that it could only come from the mind of somebody who has not been able to think outside of the right wing of the Republican Party.
People who are registered as DTS are generally rather knowledgeable and would be disgusted by the mis-characterization of the Libertarian Party, for example.
Jubal obviously didn’t get the memo that the Karl Rove brand of smear has fallen out of favor with voters…
Yeah, sounds like the boomerang effect of Dana’s lame, last-minute attack mailers on Debbie. which he sent to every registered voter in the district who was not a Democrat. They were so obviously sleazy that even voters who didn’t know all the facts could tell they were dishonest, and they caused us to have a wave of Republicans and independents calling us with questions and supports and offers to volunteer. Obviously that must have been the tip of the iceberg, of folks who changed their vote – we’ll see. I wish he would send out some more this weekend! 🙂
Wow is this what the grown ups in society fumble about in the wee hours of the morning and a.m. hours. Jubal and others let’s try and be pro active. How about not attacking or spending time on web sites and blogs that put a bad taste in your mouth. Let’s be pro active and talk about things that matter to the public instead of forms and faxes and e-file, get over it, it obviously isn’t making a difference to the poor voters like me who just giggle at the real life dramatization we see from “elected officials and their peeps. People can see through your smoke and mirrors.
Okay that’s all thanks for the minute. Gen Xer and lovin it!
What can I say Art?
You’re a uniter after all.
The massive wave of unknowledgeable voters are coming to a poll near you on November the 4th.
I was at a ROV party last night and listened to Neil Kelly gave a talk on past elections and the upcoming election and what the staff is gearing up for. Current predictions at 74% turnout with half being “Vote by Mail”
They will vote for whatever, some will take up to 10 minutes to more than a half hour reading election books while trying to vote in the electronic booths. There were stories about 80 to 100 people waiting to vote at the close of polls at 8pm in past elections.
And much to the horror of the poll workers at this meeting, Kelly said that there are judge’s on call if the polls need to be extended past the 8pm deadline.
I was able to extract some anonymous and unverifiable information on the unofficial count of the early votes down loaded from the JBC’s from early voting.
The OC being a Republican County, it is no secret that McCain would walk away with the vote for President, But what was interesting was the possibility of another election to handle the local run offs.
I asked about the SA, and was told everyone was looking at those numbers with surprise.
Well lets get out the vote and you can still vote early at the ROV’s headquarters on Grand and McFadden in Santa Ana on the Green Ballots.
Hope to see all my friends at the water tower precinct next Tuesday.
I agree with Gustavo, this mailer helps Art.
However, I never thought I would see Schoeder and OCEA in the same bed together.
Somebody has someones else nuts or someone just got fooled.
OCEA members should be upset that the board or Nick B has enough money to contribute to this pro-Art mailer when there a proposition on the county ballot that will seriously impact County workers.
How does electing Art P. to Santa Ana impact County workers? Sure, somewhere any person can make a connection but aren’t there more important prioritize to place the member’s contribution.
The OCEA board made a big stupid mistake to get in bed with Schoeder, one of the most anti-union fellows ever.
Jose, the power of Pedroza-hate has made grown men grovel, mutilate themselves, and disown their dearest friends and cherished ideals. It is an awesome force of nature that defies comprehension. What we are witnessing now is nothing.
Vern I’ve been quiet for days watching all this mess unfold reading this and that and chuckling to myself so now I will finally comment because your comment was so great. Its like Art is The Little Engine That Could… maybe really could. And although they will never admit it and fight to the death as to not do so they are running scared or so it seems. Although I have had many issues of late with the way Art attacked Jubal’s wife, and that people do care what he has to say in public and on this blog and I think at times he disregards this, he still has my vote.
Art you find anything against yourself highly disturbing. You don’t like it, then dont dish it out. That mailer was mild compared to what I would have produced. You viciously attack anyone, with no humanity or boundaries and YOU find the alliance disturbing lol.
Flowerszzz,
There is nothing remotely “LOL” about Ware and Schroeder.
Cook would be interested in who is giving you vote tallies before the close of polls on election day as it is illegal and they could go to jail. Do tell…..
And there are no local run offs in the general….the November elections are winner take all. Sounds like gossip to me.
Porbecito Arturo….it is quite LOL actually.
Flowerszzz,
Not to the people of Santa Ana. Ware is hated here and few Republicans are as despises as Schroeder.
To: FLowerszzz
anonymous and unverifiable & unofficial count = gossip
Yep I was on purposely unclear, so thanks for reading.
(As far as I know the tapes are still in envelopes and the memory cards are still in the JBC’s)
Interesting that the “Actual Counts in the Can” are unlawful to publish.
But the numbers the pollsters are promoting as the, or just like the, or most likely the, actual counts, are legal to publish and sell as facts, being equal to the “Counts in the Can.”
Only in America, is guess work and fakery elevated to the highest levels of importance’s, and the cold hard facts and truth are barred by law and locked away.
What ass voted to make that way law?
An exit poll is one thing – people asking others who they voted for after they leave the election booths – however someone working at the Registrar giving you actual vague “vote” tallies, as you implied is flat out illegal.
You crack me up though…..the results are not barred and locked away…they are held until the close of polls, which is the law. To be honest I dont even like the fact that they have started counting any ballots yet and think all ballot counts should be held until close of polls….there is chance for leaks – like you have insinuated you got. One of the the reasons for this is simple…..if people get results before election day and lets say their candidate is losing – then why bother to vote – or vice versa.
Flowerszzz:
That’s your first sensible post in this thread…
Anyway, we already have the problem you point out: we get results from the East Coast while the West is still voting…
Like I said, actual votes are illegal to post because of a law was passed years ago.
But Exit polls and the other polls are not illegal because?
Heaven forbid that the results of actual votes be used to influence the voters on the left coast. It is best to keep as many as possible in the dark and with misinformation and fakery as long as possible.
Maybe you can tell me why exit polls and the other kinds of polls are “OK” to be used to influence voters but real counts of actual votes is “Not OK” to influence voters.