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	<title>Comments on: Was this a good time to open the Santa Ana Business Bank?</title>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/07/was-this-a-good-time-to-open-the-santa-ana-business-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-63909</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20,

You forget that the SABB board includes a City Clowncilman - Carlos Bustamante.  That SHOULD preclude the City from putting ANY money in this bank.  

BTW, Amezcua says he is not running again for the RSCCD Board.  Methinks something is up at SABB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20,</p>
<p>You forget that the SABB board includes a City Clowncilman &#8211; Carlos Bustamante.  That SHOULD preclude the City from putting ANY money in this bank.  </p>
<p>BTW, Amezcua says he is not running again for the RSCCD Board.  Methinks something is up at SABB.</p>
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		<title>By: ELS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ELS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing personal Art, but if you know anything about banks or public finance, your post reads like sequential non-sequiters.

FWIW, SABB is teeny, tiny.  They have 10 employees.    If you want to check out their stats, you can go to www.fdic.gov.  Click on &quot;Industry Analysis&quot; and then click on &quot;Bank Data &amp; Statistics.&quot;  From there, choose &quot;Institution Directory.&quot;  Under the blue/black banner of &quot;Find All&quot; click on &quot;Institutions.&quot;  In the box for &quot;Institution Name&quot; type &quot;Santa Ana Business Bank,&quot;  and click on the &quot;Find&quot; button.  When SABB pops up, click on the cert number (58390) and you will get a new page.  For assets and liabilities (the default), just click &quot;Get Report,&quot; and bingo - you&#039;ve got your info.

Then pick another local bank - maybe First Federal of California - and compare the number.  SAAB has only 10 employees.  They certainly won&#039;t be handling the bond indenture trusts.  That will likely be US Bank or Wells Fargo, who have the staff and expertise to handle such matters.  SABB may hold some city deposits, but that&#039;s hardly nefarious.  Just about every city I know of spreads the love, er, deposits, as a safety measure (IndyMac, anyone?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing personal Art, but if you know anything about banks or public finance, your post reads like sequential non-sequiters.</p>
<p>FWIW, SABB is teeny, tiny.  They have 10 employees.    If you want to check out their stats, you can go to <a href="http://www.fdic.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.fdic.gov</a>.  Click on &#8220;Industry Analysis&#8221; and then click on &#8220;Bank Data &amp; Statistics.&#8221;  From there, choose &#8220;Institution Directory.&#8221;  Under the blue/black banner of &#8220;Find All&#8221; click on &#8220;Institutions.&#8221;  In the box for &#8220;Institution Name&#8221; type &#8220;Santa Ana Business Bank,&#8221;  and click on the &#8220;Find&#8221; button.  When SABB pops up, click on the cert number (58390) and you will get a new page.  For assets and liabilities (the default), just click &#8220;Get Report,&#8221; and bingo &#8211; you&#8217;ve got your info.</p>
<p>Then pick another local bank &#8211; maybe First Federal of California &#8211; and compare the number.  SAAB has only 10 employees.  They certainly won&#8217;t be handling the bond indenture trusts.  That will likely be US Bank or Wells Fargo, who have the staff and expertise to handle such matters.  SABB may hold some city deposits, but that&#8217;s hardly nefarious.  Just about every city I know of spreads the love, er, deposits, as a safety measure (IndyMac, anyone?).</p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/07/was-this-a-good-time-to-open-the-santa-ana-business-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-63887</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thing might have legs, Art.  Julie Lance over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.redfin.com/orangecounty/2008/07/santa_ana_opening_a_bank_now_somethings_not_right.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Redfin &lt;/a&gt;smells a rat, too.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thing might have legs, Art.  Julie Lance over at <a href="http://blog.redfin.com/orangecounty/2008/07/santa_ana_opening_a_bank_now_somethings_not_right.html" rel="nofollow">Redfin </a>smells a rat, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwarzenegger Centrist Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwarzenegger Centrist Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a call to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency might be necessary to see if the SABB is on the list of banks in trouble. That is assuming that the SABB is federally chartered. If not, a call to Sacramento is in order. Who&#039;s up for the task? Im sure that Cordova does all their banking with SABB-one would have to be an idiot not to think that. Plus look at the illustrious history of PLA and Cordoba in LA County as published over the last 20 years in the LA Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a call to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency might be necessary to see if the SABB is on the list of banks in trouble. That is assuming that the SABB is federally chartered. If not, a call to Sacramento is in order. Who&#8217;s up for the task? Im sure that Cordova does all their banking with SABB-one would have to be an idiot not to think that. Plus look at the illustrious history of PLA and Cordoba in LA County as published over the last 20 years in the LA Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regional Banks are under a lot of pressure because of credit tightening.  Some of the more prominently traded small banks have had significant price declines in their stock.

Who decides where the bond money should be parked and managed?  This clearly seems like a conflict of interest to have council members&#039; banking institution have an unfair monopoly on incoming tax monies that the council is also in charge of spending.  How many of these guys, their family members and business &quot;associates&quot; are on the bond oversight steering committee?

This thing is starting to stink worse than Judy Ware&#039;s place.  At least she has a legitimate excuse of managaging actual garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regional Banks are under a lot of pressure because of credit tightening.  Some of the more prominently traded small banks have had significant price declines in their stock.</p>
<p>Who decides where the bond money should be parked and managed?  This clearly seems like a conflict of interest to have council members&#8217; banking institution have an unfair monopoly on incoming tax monies that the council is also in charge of spending.  How many of these guys, their family members and business &#8220;associates&#8221; are on the bond oversight steering committee?</p>
<p>This thing is starting to stink worse than Judy Ware&#8217;s place.  At least she has a legitimate excuse of managaging actual garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Santa Tijuanera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santa Tijuanera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7.  Many Mistresses? Why would any decent woman want to sleep with a monkey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7.  Many Mistresses? Why would any decent woman want to sleep with a monkey?</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy,

I believe the cost per student was quite a bit different for SAC vs. Santiago.  SAC&#039;s enrollment is quite a bit larger than Santiago, isn&#039;t that right?

Thanks for the spending recap.  There were a number of items that are beneficial to all of the students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy,</p>
<p>I believe the cost per student was quite a bit different for SAC vs. Santiago.  SAC&#8217;s enrollment is quite a bit larger than Santiago, isn&#8217;t that right?</p>
<p>Thanks for the spending recap.  There were a number of items that are beneficial to all of the students.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy,

Good info, thanks.  Would you please tell me how much was spent at SAC once you remove the money spent on the Carona Sheriff Training Facility?

Also, wasn&#039;t there going to be a new math/science building built as well?  Were there other structures or projects promised that weren&#039;t built?  And were the voters aware that so much bond money was going to be spent on the Carona Sheriff Training Facility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy,</p>
<p>Good info, thanks.  Would you please tell me how much was spent at SAC once you remove the money spent on the Carona Sheriff Training Facility?</p>
<p>Also, wasn&#8217;t there going to be a new math/science building built as well?  Were there other structures or projects promised that weren&#8217;t built?  And were the voters aware that so much bond money was going to be spent on the Carona Sheriff Training Facility?</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Iannaccone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Iannaccone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rancho Santiago Community College District has not placed a bond measure on the ballot this November; the Chancellor did not recommend one nor has the Board of Trustees taken any action to do so. At the most recent Bond Oversight Committee meeting on 5/15/08, a report of Measure E expenditures was distributed. Of the $190,227,529 spent so far from the Measure E bond, the college district has spent a total of $87,330,282 for Santiago Canyon College and a total of $91,806,150 at Santa Ana College. (The remaining $11,091,097 went to replace aging telephone and computer networks districtwide.) The fact is MORE, not less, has been spent on Santa Ana College to date. In addition to renovating 14 buildings, a state-of-the-art Digital Media Center, an Exercise Science Complex, a new softball field, a two-story instructional building (under construction), a new maintenance and operations building (under construction) as well as the O.C. Sheriff’s Regional Training Academy (part of the Santa Ana College’s renowned criminal justice program) have been undertaken. Other Santa Ana College Measure E projects still to be built are a new Child Development Center (going to construction bid soon), a new two-story classroom building at Centennial Education Center, and a new parking structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rancho Santiago Community College District has not placed a bond measure on the ballot this November; the Chancellor did not recommend one nor has the Board of Trustees taken any action to do so. At the most recent Bond Oversight Committee meeting on 5/15/08, a report of Measure E expenditures was distributed. Of the $190,227,529 spent so far from the Measure E bond, the college district has spent a total of $87,330,282 for Santiago Canyon College and a total of $91,806,150 at Santa Ana College. (The remaining $11,091,097 went to replace aging telephone and computer networks districtwide.) The fact is MORE, not less, has been spent on Santa Ana College to date. In addition to renovating 14 buildings, a state-of-the-art Digital Media Center, an Exercise Science Complex, a new softball field, a two-story instructional building (under construction), a new maintenance and operations building (under construction) as well as the O.C. Sheriff’s Regional Training Academy (part of the Santa Ana College’s renowned criminal justice program) have been undertaken. Other Santa Ana College Measure E projects still to be built are a new Child Development Center (going to construction bid soon), a new two-story classroom building at Centennial Education Center, and a new parking structure.</p>
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		<title>By: NoHypocritesPlease</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoHypocritesPlease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pedroza...

Really man....why didn&#039;t you blame the &#039;racist&#039; Minutemen for THIS debacle too? I mean, another poor group of Mexicans failing...it&#039;s GOT to be the fault of SOMEONE out to get them..right?

OK, I know your article was right on...so how is it that someone (you) with the ABILITY to be logical can let his love of  &quot;La Raza&quot; blind him to right and wrong?

Please make up your mind whether you will be a hateful, pro-Mexican at-any-price closet racist, or a logical, fair minded thinker (as in THIS piece).

I wonder if you have THIS bumper sticker on your car;
 &quot;Roses are red, Violets are Blue, I&#039;m Schizophrenic..and so am I&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pedroza&#8230;</p>
<p>Really man&#8230;.why didn&#8217;t you blame the &#8216;racist&#8217; Minutemen for THIS debacle too? I mean, another poor group of Mexicans failing&#8230;it&#8217;s GOT to be the fault of SOMEONE out to get them..right?</p>
<p>OK, I know your article was right on&#8230;so how is it that someone (you) with the ABILITY to be logical can let his love of  &#8220;La Raza&#8221; blind him to right and wrong?</p>
<p>Please make up your mind whether you will be a hateful, pro-Mexican at-any-price closet racist, or a logical, fair minded thinker (as in THIS piece).</p>
<p>I wonder if you have THIS bumper sticker on your car;<br />
 &#8220;Roses are red, Violets are Blue, I&#8217;m Schizophrenic..and so am I&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yep - I would say that last year qualifies as “just before.”&quot;

It figures you&#039;d say that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yep &#8211; I would say that last year qualifies as “just before.”&#8221;</p>
<p>It figures you&#8217;d say that.</p>
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		<title>By: SANTAANAHATERS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SANTAANAHATERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME... The person who you should be questioning is Carlos Bustamante who is married and cheats on his wife with many ladies he works with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME&#8230; The person who you should be questioning is Carlos Bustamante who is married and cheats on his wife with many ladies he works with.</p>
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