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		<title>By: duplojohn</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/07/adios-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-62718</link>
		<dc:creator>duplojohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Governor ins EXTREMELY sensitive to possible embarassment with regard to apointees.

I for one can attest to brutal questioning of my past statements and background.

As for Jubal&#039;s curage, it sure would have been nice or still would be nice if he&#039;d take the same tact with the Corona/Shcroeder debacle, theres a few others we could throw in there. 

As for hi future, Carlos will be fine, look at Richardson, in his small fifedom he can continue to f*** things up for helpless kids  with out too much retribution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Governor ins EXTREMELY sensitive to possible embarassment with regard to apointees.</p>
<p>I for one can attest to brutal questioning of my past statements and background.</p>
<p>As for Jubal&#8217;s curage, it sure would have been nice or still would be nice if he&#8217;d take the same tact with the Corona/Shcroeder debacle, theres a few others we could throw in there. </p>
<p>As for hi future, Carlos will be fine, look at Richardson, in his small fifedom he can continue to f*** things up for helpless kids  with out too much retribution!</p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
		<link>http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/07/adios-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-62641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCR:

Yet again, you prove my point for me. Nothing to offer but spittle and bluster.</description>
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<p>Yet again, you prove my point for me. Nothing to offer but spittle and bluster.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisann Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisann Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos Bustamontes, ADA violations in the City of Santa Ana. See Video http://youtube.com/lisannmartinez</description>
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		<title>By: Schwarzeneggar Centrist Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwarzeneggar Centrist Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JabalIdiot

waa waa waa

make sure that when you cry in your liquid refreshment, that you are always wearing your NeoKlan cone hat and cape. It reflects the racist element in you that we all know exists even though you continually deny it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JabalIdiot</p>
<p>waa waa waa</p>
<p>make sure that when you cry in your liquid refreshment, that you are always wearing your NeoKlan cone hat and cape. It reflects the racist element in you that we all know exists even though you continually deny it.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OC Weekly&#039;s take on the whole thing.  It&#039;s pretty funny ;-)

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/notes-from-the-banana-republic/busty-bursts-bubbles-of-boho-b/

Snip   ~~~

&lt;i&gt; All of this is gone because Bustamante is a baboso. Last month, Bustamante cracked some stupid joke regarding breast implants and a water bra about newly appointed Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens, and good-minded folks went wacko. Bustamante at first denied the remarks, but now all he&#039;s doing is resigning from the two commissions. ........... &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OC Weekly&#8217;s take on the whole thing.  It&#8217;s pretty funny <img src='http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/notes-from-the-banana-republic/busty-bursts-bubbles-of-boho-b/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/notes-from-the-banana-republic/busty-bursts-bubbles-of-boho-b/</a></p>
<p>Snip   ~~~</p>
<p><i> All of this is gone because Bustamante is a baboso. Last month, Bustamante cracked some stupid joke regarding breast implants and a water bra about newly appointed Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens, and good-minded folks went wacko. Bustamante at first denied the remarks, but now all he&#8217;s doing is resigning from the two commissions. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. </i></p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCR:

In other words, you&#039;ve got nothing to offer but petty personal attacks. 

Some people use a pseudonym so they can provide news and info without fear of retribution. Others use it like cowards to lie and make personal attacks. You obviously fall in the latter category: because if you actually were the important public policy type you make yourself out to be, your colleagues would see you in a much different light if you actually put your name to  your venom.   

Pa-thetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCR:</p>
<p>In other words, you&#8217;ve got nothing to offer but petty personal attacks. </p>
<p>Some people use a pseudonym so they can provide news and info without fear of retribution. Others use it like cowards to lie and make personal attacks. You obviously fall in the latter category: because if you actually were the important public policy type you make yourself out to be, your colleagues would see you in a much different light if you actually put your name to  your venom.   </p>
<p>Pa-thetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Michelle Spinosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Michelle Spinosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt -

You&#039;re my hero. :P

#13 -

&#039;&lt;i&gt;In addition to being a sexist pig, Carlos has borne a female child out of wedlock some 14 years ago. This childs birth certificate will be mailed to voters along with his sexist comments.&lt;/i&gt;&#039;

Yes, and?

SMS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt -</p>
<p>You&#8217;re my hero. <img src='http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>#13 -</p>
<p>&#8216;<i>In addition to being a sexist pig, Carlos has borne a female child out of wedlock some 14 years ago. This childs birth certificate will be mailed to voters along with his sexist comments.</i>&#8216;</p>
<p>Yes, and?</p>
<p>SMS</p>
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		<title>By: Schwarzeneggar Centrist Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwarzeneggar Centrist Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JubalIdiot:

Ah-nuld would be shocked by your spite and vitriol — even attacking my wife and children from the safety of anonymity! Not very inclusive or post-partisan of you.

Its called the politics of destruction of the radical right or as the Governor says-the return of the party to the center and away from the Fleischmans, Cunninghams, and Melanie Morgans, to name a few racist neoKlan members of the Republican party of California-say have you made your donation to pay the debt off that exists-or are you relying on the Gov&#039;s friends


And it’s “Schwarzenegger” not “Schwarzeneggar.” If you’re going to emulate Ahnuld, I thought you might want to spell his name correctly.-Minor detail-but go back and play in your sandbox with Msgnr Urell-oh yes that suite in your office, or rather home.

I said nothing about his reelection to the SACC. The reason I did not mention it is that such a conclusion is self evident.

No, you told SMS you “disagree with your conclusion that his career is not over.” Career would include being re-elected to council. Don’t get huffy because you can’t express yourself clearly.

--I take the big picture-I have been working on this here in town for several months-his opening up his mouth was the frosting on the cake.-Only a moron like you would froth at the mouth and postulate that his career is not over. The old adage is true-that all politics is local-the second old adage is that politics ends at the local level-the voters of his district have to deal with him-and they will-but as his previous history shows (placing 4th in his supervisorial run), I feel safe in saying that his career is at an end. Every voter that he deals with in his district, or across the city, or viewing him at a city council meeting will have his comments in the back of their mind.

But your blanket assertion that this nukes Carlos’ political career is absurd when you don’t know the contours or candidate field of whatever contest Carlos may enter in the future. Like it or not, candidates have overcome worse to win.

You definitely have consumed the Schroeder kool-aid--gawd how your comments parallel Fleischmann&#039;s comments at one of Carona&#039;s press conferences-behavior is behavior-and the voters never forget....



The issue is very clear: a public setting: he represents himself as a member of the Santa Ana City Council AND he is a county employee.

Wow, you can sure hear and see well from all the way up in Sacramento, SCR.
--As I said, all politics is local-his career is dead and will not progress further-especially with Senator Padilla putting the stone around his neck. And that same stone hangs around Nunez&#039; and Villaraigosa&#039;s necks. The common theme is behavior. End of story. As for the OC contingent here in Sacramento, there isnt a whole lot of respect for the OC contingent. Generally viewed by many in the building as lazy and without substance. To that contingent will come Dianne Harkey. We cant wait for the laughing to stop. We are all waiting for the trainwreck that is Harkey. Again behavior behavior behavior.  

There were three people present when Carlos made that remark — you weren’t one of them.

I never said that I was. I have been there many times and dealt with many sups while you were in grammer school. I can exercise my influence here and do so readily for my contacts there. The nomination was dead months ago-the fact that Bustamante opened his mouth and the fact that the LA Times reported this hugely embarassing dialogue made the nomination a no go-it was now a question of when and not if-this would have gone to rules after the budget and later this fall.
Now it wont see the light of day. In much the same way a Bustamante election to supervisor, the state assembly, or the state senate will not see the light of day. And we havent even discussed the philandering issue (of which there is plenty of evidence) and its relationship to his personal credibility. 

But pontificate on the clearness of the setting and situation, if you like.


Easily said, without the pontification. The space commandante will not be elected to any future public office in Orange County. Sorry, one exception-probably the Orange County Republican Central Committee-he can compare notes with Rosie Avila

Jubalidiot-
now go back to your sandbox and dream a sweet dream of being in Chino with Aleman passing out Karl&#039;s (sic) coupons to your fellow inmates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JubalIdiot:</p>
<p>Ah-nuld would be shocked by your spite and vitriol — even attacking my wife and children from the safety of anonymity! Not very inclusive or post-partisan of you.</p>
<p>Its called the politics of destruction of the radical right or as the Governor says-the return of the party to the center and away from the Fleischmans, Cunninghams, and Melanie Morgans, to name a few racist neoKlan members of the Republican party of California-say have you made your donation to pay the debt off that exists-or are you relying on the Gov&#8217;s friends</p>
<p>And it’s “Schwarzenegger” not “Schwarzeneggar.” If you’re going to emulate Ahnuld, I thought you might want to spell his name correctly.-Minor detail-but go back and play in your sandbox with Msgnr Urell-oh yes that suite in your office, or rather home.</p>
<p>I said nothing about his reelection to the SACC. The reason I did not mention it is that such a conclusion is self evident.</p>
<p>No, you told SMS you “disagree with your conclusion that his career is not over.” Career would include being re-elected to council. Don’t get huffy because you can’t express yourself clearly.</p>
<p>&#8211;I take the big picture-I have been working on this here in town for several months-his opening up his mouth was the frosting on the cake.-Only a moron like you would froth at the mouth and postulate that his career is not over. The old adage is true-that all politics is local-the second old adage is that politics ends at the local level-the voters of his district have to deal with him-and they will-but as his previous history shows (placing 4th in his supervisorial run), I feel safe in saying that his career is at an end. Every voter that he deals with in his district, or across the city, or viewing him at a city council meeting will have his comments in the back of their mind.</p>
<p>But your blanket assertion that this nukes Carlos’ political career is absurd when you don’t know the contours or candidate field of whatever contest Carlos may enter in the future. Like it or not, candidates have overcome worse to win.</p>
<p>You definitely have consumed the Schroeder kool-aid&#8211;gawd how your comments parallel Fleischmann&#8217;s comments at one of Carona&#8217;s press conferences-behavior is behavior-and the voters never forget&#8230;.</p>
<p>The issue is very clear: a public setting: he represents himself as a member of the Santa Ana City Council AND he is a county employee.</p>
<p>Wow, you can sure hear and see well from all the way up in Sacramento, SCR.<br />
&#8211;As I said, all politics is local-his career is dead and will not progress further-especially with Senator Padilla putting the stone around his neck. And that same stone hangs around Nunez&#8217; and Villaraigosa&#8217;s necks. The common theme is behavior. End of story. As for the OC contingent here in Sacramento, there isnt a whole lot of respect for the OC contingent. Generally viewed by many in the building as lazy and without substance. To that contingent will come Dianne Harkey. We cant wait for the laughing to stop. We are all waiting for the trainwreck that is Harkey. Again behavior behavior behavior.  </p>
<p>There were three people present when Carlos made that remark — you weren’t one of them.</p>
<p>I never said that I was. I have been there many times and dealt with many sups while you were in grammer school. I can exercise my influence here and do so readily for my contacts there. The nomination was dead months ago-the fact that Bustamante opened his mouth and the fact that the LA Times reported this hugely embarassing dialogue made the nomination a no go-it was now a question of when and not if-this would have gone to rules after the budget and later this fall.<br />
Now it wont see the light of day. In much the same way a Bustamante election to supervisor, the state assembly, or the state senate will not see the light of day. And we havent even discussed the philandering issue (of which there is plenty of evidence) and its relationship to his personal credibility. </p>
<p>But pontificate on the clearness of the setting and situation, if you like.</p>
<p>Easily said, without the pontification. The space commandante will not be elected to any future public office in Orange County. Sorry, one exception-probably the Orange County Republican Central Committee-he can compare notes with Rosie Avila</p>
<p>Jubalidiot-<br />
now go back to your sandbox and dream a sweet dream of being in Chino with Aleman passing out Karl&#8217;s (sic) coupons to your fellow inmates.</p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCR:

Ah-nuld would be shocked by your spite and vitriol -- even attacking my wife and children from the safety of anonymity! Not very inclusive or post-partisan of you.

And it&#039;s &quot;Schwarzenegger&quot; not &quot;Schwarzeneggar.&quot; If you&#039;re going to emulate Ahnuld, I thought you might want to spell his name correctly.

&lt;i&gt;I said nothing about his reelection to the SACC. The reason I did not mention it is that such a conclusion is self evident.&lt;/i&gt;

No, you told SMS you &quot;disagree with your conclusion that his career is not over.&quot; Career would include being re-elected to council. Don&#039;t get huffy because you can&#039;t express yourself clearly.

But your blanket assertion that this nukes Carlos&#039; political career is absurd when you don&#039;t know the contours or candidate field of whatever contest Carlos may enter in the future. Like it or not, candidates have overcome worse to win.

&lt;i&gt;The issue is very clear: a public setting: he represents himself as a member of the Santa Ana City Council AND he is a county employee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow, you can sure hear and see well from all the way up in Sacramento, SCR. 

There were three people present when Carlos made that remark -- you weren&#039;t one of them. But pontificate on the clearness of the setting and situation, if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCR:</p>
<p>Ah-nuld would be shocked by your spite and vitriol &#8212; even attacking my wife and children from the safety of anonymity! Not very inclusive or post-partisan of you.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s &#8220;Schwarzenegger&#8221; not &#8220;Schwarzeneggar.&#8221; If you&#8217;re going to emulate Ahnuld, I thought you might want to spell his name correctly.</p>
<p><i>I said nothing about his reelection to the SACC. The reason I did not mention it is that such a conclusion is self evident.</i></p>
<p>No, you told SMS you &#8220;disagree with your conclusion that his career is not over.&#8221; Career would include being re-elected to council. Don&#8217;t get huffy because you can&#8217;t express yourself clearly.</p>
<p>But your blanket assertion that this nukes Carlos&#8217; political career is absurd when you don&#8217;t know the contours or candidate field of whatever contest Carlos may enter in the future. Like it or not, candidates have overcome worse to win.</p>
<p><i>The issue is very clear: a public setting: he represents himself as a member of the Santa Ana City Council AND he is a county employee.</i></p>
<p>Wow, you can sure hear and see well from all the way up in Sacramento, SCR. </p>
<p>There were three people present when Carlos made that remark &#8212; you weren&#8217;t one of them. But pontificate on the clearness of the setting and situation, if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to being a sexist pig, Carlos has borne a female child out of wedlock some 14 years ago. This childs birth certificate will be mailed to voters along with his sexist comments.Carlos cited the excuse of new responsibilities at his job as the reason for his resignations, but he still has pleanty of time for his philandering ways with women other than his wife and his position on the board of the santana business bank. Maybe Carlos should just decide to sit out the next election to spend more time at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to being a sexist pig, Carlos has borne a female child out of wedlock some 14 years ago. This childs birth certificate will be mailed to voters along with his sexist comments.Carlos cited the excuse of new responsibilities at his job as the reason for his resignations, but he still has pleanty of time for his philandering ways with women other than his wife and his position on the board of the santana business bank. Maybe Carlos should just decide to sit out the next election to spend more time at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwarzeneggar Centrist Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwarzeneggar Centrist Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Cunningham aka Jubalidiot:


First, thank you for correcting the typo on my part-out of the 58 counties (including Sacramento) all chief executives are titled chief executive officer. In my work with public entities, I deal with both positions.

With respect to California counties, the only exception I know to that rule is San Francisco which has a combined city/county governmental structure run by a Mayor and Board of Supervisors (and at one time did have a chief administrative officer-I know since I formerly worked for him and not in a gadfly position as you did as a staff gofer). Stop your whining NeoKlan boy

Go back and take the cotton out of your ears. Reread the post. I said nothing about his reelection to the SACC. The reason I did not mention it is that such a conclusion is self evident.

It goes without saying that this situation will not impact his reelection efforts this fall. There is one exception. A creditable candidate to run against him. Especially if that candidate is a woman. 

Absent that, he will win this fall against no opposition, let alone token opposition. But as to a further career achievements thru higher elected positions, that, as they say, &quot;aint gonna happen bozo&quot;. This clowncil member is history.   

So go back and get your neoKlan robes out, with Jabalicious and the jubalettes, and your ironing board and go solicit support for the marriage initiative this fall. BTW, the FTB down the street was very interested in your receipt of OCF tickets. It was a great conversation. If you play your cards right, maybe you and aleman (how appropriate-espanol for germany) can be cell mates and pass out star burger tickets in the yard at Chino.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Cunningham aka Jubalidiot:</p>
<p>First, thank you for correcting the typo on my part-out of the 58 counties (including Sacramento) all chief executives are titled chief executive officer. In my work with public entities, I deal with both positions.</p>
<p>With respect to California counties, the only exception I know to that rule is San Francisco which has a combined city/county governmental structure run by a Mayor and Board of Supervisors (and at one time did have a chief administrative officer-I know since I formerly worked for him and not in a gadfly position as you did as a staff gofer). Stop your whining NeoKlan boy</p>
<p>Go back and take the cotton out of your ears. Reread the post. I said nothing about his reelection to the SACC. The reason I did not mention it is that such a conclusion is self evident.</p>
<p>It goes without saying that this situation will not impact his reelection efforts this fall. There is one exception. A creditable candidate to run against him. Especially if that candidate is a woman. </p>
<p>Absent that, he will win this fall against no opposition, let alone token opposition. But as to a further career achievements thru higher elected positions, that, as they say, &#8220;aint gonna happen bozo&#8221;. This clowncil member is history.   </p>
<p>So go back and get your neoKlan robes out, with Jabalicious and the jubalettes, and your ironing board and go solicit support for the marriage initiative this fall. BTW, the FTB down the street was very interested in your receipt of OCF tickets. It was a great conversation. If you play your cards right, maybe you and aleman (how appropriate-espanol for germany) can be cell mates and pass out star burger tickets in the yard at Chino&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: interesting</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it Matt who was defending Carlos and calling anyone offended by his joke a PC wuss?</description>
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