Comments on: Surf City cracks down on taggers while they run rampant in Santa Ana http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so Orange County's top political blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: mence uno http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-128806 mence uno Thu, 20 May 2010 07:24:12 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-128806 they cant stop us ''taggers'' were just too many out there, in santa ana. Santa ana is the biggest city in the oc, theres just not enough cops to cover all that ground. Ive tagged at 2 or 3 in the morning an guess wat no cop in sight, i luv it. an da rest of u graff writers stay up! they cant stop us ”taggers” were just too many out there, in santa ana. Santa ana is the biggest city in the oc, theres just not enough cops to cover all that ground. Ive tagged at 2 or 3 in the morning an guess wat no cop in sight, i luv it. an da rest of u graff writers stay up!

]]> By: agrees with who the f*** cares http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-115559 agrees with who the f*** cares Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:41:29 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-115559 im not one to say i hate cops, because we need them when things go wrong. But graffiti isn't hurting anyone and over time the artists graduate from some little tag to full on mural. And in some cases start designing the clothes you are wearing, we should try to move graffiti, but move it into a more prospering positive way. Because it won't end anytime soon. I in fact write graffiti, and it's taught me a lot. I've grown from cheasy tags to things inspiration and its opened a lot of doors for me. On the other hand gang affiliated graffiti isnt going to stop just by busting some vandals. it seems to me that you people need to have gang programs set up and stuff to get rid of gangs, NOT ARTISTS. im not one to say i hate cops, because we need them when things go wrong. But graffiti isn’t hurting anyone and over time the artists graduate from some little tag to full on mural. And in some cases start designing the clothes you are wearing, we should try to move graffiti, but move it into a more prospering positive way. Because it won’t end anytime soon. I in fact write graffiti, and it’s taught me a lot. I’ve grown from cheasy tags to things inspiration and its opened a lot of doors for me. On the other hand gang affiliated graffiti isnt going to stop just by busting some vandals. it seems to me that you people need to have gang programs set up and stuff to get rid of gangs, NOT ARTISTS.

]]> By: who the f*** cares http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-88219 who the f*** cares Sat, 23 May 2009 22:14:06 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-88219 graffiti is beautiful and is as old as culture. Why do so many people hate it? Seems like another way to control people to me. not everyone has access to art supplies, galleries, art schools and most of the stuff at art schools is crap anyway. Graffiti is poetry. Fining people isn't going to stop anything. graffiti is beautiful and is as old as culture. Why do so many people hate it?
Seems like another way to control people to me.
not everyone has access to art supplies, galleries, art schools and most of the stuff at art schools is crap anyway. Graffiti is poetry. Fining people isn’t going to stop anything.

]]> By: Fed up http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-57819 Fed up Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:01:02 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-57819 I work in the civic center of Santa Ana area and my landlord has to cover over graffiti regularly. I watched a gang-banger tag the front of business in broad daylight on First street durning afternoon rush hour. People were honking their horns and yelling but that didn't stop the guy. Pretty clear to me the guy wasn't worried about the cops. Take the 3 million and double it to include the private sector. I work in the civic center of Santa Ana area and my landlord has to cover over graffiti regularly. I watched a gang-banger tag the front of business in broad daylight on First street durning afternoon rush hour. People were honking their horns and yelling but that didn’t stop the guy. Pretty clear to me the guy wasn’t worried about the cops. Take the 3 million and double it to include the private sector.

]]> By: Thomas Anthony Gordon http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-57740 Thomas Anthony Gordon Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:16:13 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-57740 The City of Santa Ana spends 3 million a year to paint over the unsightly blight that is graffiti. And that sum does not take into account the slap tags, pen tags, glass and metal etchings and graffiiti painted out by businesses and property owners. Its easily a 5 million a year problem, and that number does not include all the lost sales and sales taxes and decreased property values. Santa ana's image suffers county wide due to the blight that is graffiti. The City of Santa Ana spends 3 million a year to paint over the unsightly blight that is graffiti.

And that sum does not take into account the slap tags, pen tags, glass and metal etchings and graffiiti painted out by businesses and property owners.

Its easily a 5 million a year problem, and that number does not include all the lost sales and sales taxes and decreased property values.

Santa ana’s image suffers county wide due to the blight that is graffiti.

]]> By: OC Activist http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-57735 OC Activist Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:21:37 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-57735 Who's in charge of cracking down on taggers in Santa Ana? Would it be Paul Walters, the candidate being promoted by lobbyists for the job of permanent OC Sheriff? There's no better test than looking at "his" city, where tagging, gangs and other problems are among the worst in the county. Who’s in charge of cracking down on taggers in Santa Ana? Would it be Paul Walters, the candidate being promoted by lobbyists for the job of permanent OC Sheriff? There’s no better test than looking at “his” city, where tagging, gangs and other problems are among the worst in the county.

]]> By: Anony http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-57728 Anony Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:06:50 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-57728 This should be an interesting legal test. The Penal Code, which supercedes all other codes, already provides for most of these violations but requires possession for intent or for the purpose of defacing property. I'm sure the legal beagles in HB have found a way to circumvent and enhance these restrictions in the penal code, but I'm also sure some ACLU type will take on the system and test the legal validity eventually. Personally I hope the ordinances stand and other cities follow. This should be an interesting legal test. The Penal Code, which supercedes all other codes, already provides for most of these violations but requires possession for intent or for the purpose of defacing property. I’m sure the legal beagles in HB have found a way to circumvent and enhance these restrictions in the penal code, but I’m also sure some ACLU type will take on the system and test the legal validity eventually. Personally I hope the ordinances stand and other cities follow.

]]> By: anonyms http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2008/06/huntington-beach-getting-serious-about-graffiti-why-doesnt-santa-ana-do-so/comment-page-1/#comment-57719 anonyms Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:36:46 +0000 http://orangejuiceblog.com/?p=6814#comment-57719 What can I say? The HBPD is sometimes excessive, sometimes controversial, but generally effective. We were one of the first cities to fully implement community policies that involve homeowners and businesses in the solution to criminal problems. Police can't do it alone - it take a community to decide it will not allow gangs, graffitti, and violence on its streets. Police in this case become an effective tool of change or of the status quo. We are lucky to have such a fine and enlightened department in HB fully supported by the council and citizenry. What can I say? The HBPD is sometimes excessive, sometimes controversial, but generally effective. We were one of the first cities to fully implement community policies that involve homeowners and businesses in the solution to criminal problems. Police can’t do it alone – it take a community to decide it will not allow gangs, graffitti, and violence on its streets. Police in this case become an effective tool of change or of the status quo. We are lucky to have such a fine and enlightened department in HB fully supported by the council and citizenry.

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