And I’d say that even if a bunch of us west county folks didn’t have high hopes of her running against Moorlach for supervisor when she’s termed out of council in 2010.

I guess I’m just skeptical of her for some reason. I tend to read a lot into people’s inflection when they speak and I just got a weird vibe from her.

I was very specific in noting that what I said was only my opinion. I can’t quite explain it, but I just didn’t feel that she was being sincere. It seemed to me like she was feigning her anger.

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F&E Fan (by the way what does F&E stand for?) thanks for the tip, I’ll correct that. Anaheim, 91, that seems so far north to us down here, almost like South Bakersfield!

To equate ‘In God We Trust’ with ‘mom and apple pie’ is disingenuous at best. The former represents Judeo-Christian values and the latter represents America.

Those two concepts are also not mutually exclusive as our country’s greatness is not due only to Judeo-Christians, but also in part to people of many, many others religions and even many people of no religion.

The statement ‘In God We Trust’ ignores and denigrates the sacrifices of those who do not use the term God, or who in fact don’t believe in God, as well as their efforts to make this country the world’s leader.

Not to mention, it implies that the city government defers to religion on questionable issues instead of carefully considering them or deferring to the people instead, because, well, they just trust ‘him’ so bloody much!

Vern – I still think that Jill took that position for her own political gain. It was the only position that couldn’t possibly offend anyone, but in my humble opinion, still not the right one. Political convenience in the ‘lord’s name’ should also be considered vain usage, no? I guess she loves God thiiiiiiiis much!

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There were certainly elements of that happening in Fountain Valley, with announced candidate for City Council Mark McCurdy visiting churches, working his own church, and activsts using of church email lists and the Holy Spirit bulletin to promote the issue.

The court case that the proponents rely on maintains that the phrase has lost any religious meaning and is just a patriotic slogan. How can a devout Christian accept that type of use of God’s name?

Sure, I will always include links to the folks I disagree with, but they’re still wrong, and don’t understand what it is to be American.

Ron, thanks for your insight, I think the Demo’s would have had a better chance to unseat Miller with you than the other guy. Maybe next time.

I think so too, especially as suspicions grow that Miller may have lied about his military service. Oh well, I’m rooting for Chau now and so is Ron, almost anyone’s better than Dirty Gary!

Sarah, It is just a phrase, like Mom and apple pie.

Cook, that’s what some backers say, and you know who gets really offended by “It’s just a phrase”? Serious Christians. At the Huntington Beach meeting, goofy Republican Joe Carchio said “Well, in God we trust isn’t a religious phrase if you just take the religion out of it.” You should really see the video of Christian Democrat Jill Hardy’s reaction to that thoughtless and nonsensical comment. The day after, she told me “I felt like my God was dragged through the mud last night.”

I followed the link to “In god we trust Inc”, I found it an interesting site. Thanks for including the link.

Ron, thanks for your insight, I think the Demo’s would have had a better chance to unseat Miller with you than the other guy. Maybe next time.

Sarah, It is just a phrase, like Mom and apple pie.