Comments on: Will heads roll at Santa Ana College after fire alarm fiasco?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:57:00 +0000

Centennial Campus had their fire alarm system down for over a year and a half. Numerous work orders were sent to Bruce Bromberger who said there was no problem. Nilo Lipez finally had the system repaired.

By: Jeffrey McMillan

Jeffrey McMillan — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0000

The SAC safety officers are great and have nothing to do with the current fire alarm fiasco. All of you should all be given a huge Christmas bonus for the good you do. I especially commend each and every one of you for the work you do given that you are charged with protecting more staff at SAC, protecting more faculty at SAC and protecting more students at SAC with the same manpower as that the district has allocated for the same job at SCC which has considerably less staff, less faculty and less students to watch over in a location that is generally considered to be a much safer area than that of SAC. To all of you, your commitment to serving the greater good rather than narrowly focusing only on equitable working conditions will earn you all your wings when you get into heaven.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:33:00 +0000

Al Chin may be a nice guy, and he is a great cook and hosts tail gate parties like no ones business. However, he knew all about this, and hid his head in the sand like the other Managers. Watch him let Wooley take the fall for this. That is his way, place the blame on someone else. But that is the way the place works isn’t it? Most of these folks are all came as a package deal from Cerritos, Long Beach City, etc and etc.
They all should go. Every last one of them that knew, and hid.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:22:00 +0000

Please don’t blame Al Chin, Director of Safety.. Can He authorize and write a million dollar check to fix the fire system..Also lets get to the point..The safety officers are doing a great job, responding to incidents, disturbances, and catching and arresting any criminals committing a crime. These are the real hero’s on campus. Santa Ana is not a great area and these officers are confronting problems on a weekly and daily basis. Lets give a hand to of the Uniformed officers…call us… it takes 2-5 minutes to respond..Call the SAnta Ana PD, it may take 30 minutes. The Police are busy and understaffed. If it wasn’t for the uniformed safety officers, numerous situations would get worse..local criminals and gangbangers know Its “hook em and book em” if you commit a crime at santa ana college and the safety dept. catches you!!!
Al Chin deserves recognition for safety officers who do a good job and care about their jobs and reputation. Again a big hand to all of our brother and sister officers at Santa Ana College Safety Dept.!!!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:11:00 +0000

Bruce “the Juice” Bromberger is a liar like O.j. If it dosen’t work you must acquit!! HA HA. Bruce Bromberger is known for not answering his phone at night when needed by safety officers to fix a problem that is out of their hands. Hire David Perez back!!!!!

By: B.B. at SAC

B.B. at SAC — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:29:00 +0000

##5 John Hanna says The Board has confidence in the Chancellor to give us the right recommendations.

PLEASE!!!! Would the board have confidence in the fox they put in charge of the hen house to give recommendations on the chickens that seem to keep disappearing? Does CONFLICT OF INTEREST mean anything to them?

The investigation is a SHAM! A classic cover-up. The chancellor will ensure that he looks good and that anyone close to him looks good as well. The law firm hired to do the investigation wants to keep its long standing cozy financial relationship and will do what the chancellor wants to make sure that money flow does not dry up. You are a great lawyer John and you know all about conflict of interest so shame on you. This whole thing is a shame that RSCCD should be embarrassed about and really cleaning house. The investigation is a SCAM to only make it look like something was done.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:52:00 +0000

#21 I do make a distinction between incredibly poor judgment and active intentional deception. There has been quite a bit of both at RSCCD but I have not seen anything yet that has me believing that Mr. Chin is guilty of the latter. That could change as more sunlight shines into Denmark and illuminates the source of the stench. Time will tell.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:17:00 +0000

#19 said

"Al Chin has been refreshingly open that he and many other district managers were aware of the circumstances."

Refreshingly open?! How about criminally negligent? If Chin were truly honest, he would have notified the students, staff and faculty that their lives were at risk each and every time they entered the buildings that had no alarms OR fire suppression systems.

Al Chin's "honesty" seems to coincide with the exact moment the student newspaper reporter's questions were asked. Would you call a murderer "refreshingly open" when he pleads guilty at trial? Jailhouse honesty is not to be confused with the real thing!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:53:00 +0000

It was not my intention to suggest that Bruce Bromberger be the only one held responsible for putting thousands of lives at risk. As stated in the El Don, there are others who knew about the faulty alarm systems and did not act as they should have. If they had knowledge of the facts, and still did not act, they should also lose their jobs. We will have to hope that the ongoing investigation implicates everyone who knew, how much they knew, and when they first became aware of the problems with the alarm systems. If ANY individual has been found to have deliberately ignored the test results, or worse yet, lied about the results of the testing, they should be fired outright! How else can we have confidence in RSCCD's leaders in the future? It is my understanding that Bruce Bromberger stated in a meeting that, the results of the last test conducted by the company that is certified to conduct the appropriate test's, stated that there were no problems found with SAC's alarm systems. If that statement is truthful, there isn't a problem. If it is a lie, it shows a deliberate act to cover up the truth (as well as put lives at risk). It should be very simple to prove the statement a truth, or a lie. Who's job is it to make sure the alarm systems are maintained or repaired? This appears to be a MAINTENANCE issue. It is obvious that the alarms were tested and maintained in the preceding years.

If anyone, on any level, knew the extent of the problems with the alarms (Administrators may have been lied to by Bromberger and Kanouse, as were the faculty) they should be fired as well! Up to and including the Chancellor.

Plain and simple, lies cannot be covered up. If someone has lied, or downplayed the seriousness of this problem, they have put RSCCD in a position where they are liable. The public is curious to see how those who are found to have lied, are held accountable! This terrible situation would only be made worse by ignoring those who have lied.

It is a sad fact that someone was "rolling the dice" with our lives

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:59:00 +0000

Post # 15

Start where it starts and call that the college plant manager Bruce Bromberger if you like, but do not stop there. Going from the start to the finish this ends up right in the lap of the chancellor. Here is how I connect those dots. There is ample evidence that Mr. Bromberger reported and discussed multiple times the fire alarms with his supervisor vice president of administrative service, Noemi Kanouse. Likewise there is evidence that Ms. Kanouse reported the situation to the college president Erlinda Martinez. According to the presidents own words the

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:49:00 +0000

If Al Chin was working on the alarms before Wooley, and Chin is his supervisor, and Bromberger decides who does the work and how it gets paid for, What is Wooley guilty of – doing his job and running into a wall of corruption ?
Still a hero in my book.

By: college worker

college worker — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:22:00 +0000

Al Chin is not a LIAR, Right!

"Director Al Chin is not a liar? He was working on fixing the fire system by getting estimates before Lt. Wooley statrted working for the college."

How long does one take to fix or file a report with his superiors about a faulty fire alarm system, 3 years!

Before you write something pay close attention to your format!
how long has Wooley been at SAC?

If Al Chin was working on fixing the problem why is he in the predicament he is in now. I just don't blame Chin, I blame Bruce for being an incompetent moronic blabbering sarcastic power hungry idiot! dido, for the president and chancellor office.